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humfrz · 06-19-2017, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

They recommend 93 or higher
They require 91 or higher

"They" meaning the owner manual.

Well, that's what the owners manual says ....... but, did you check with you know who ...... ??

humfrz

Tcoat · 06-19-2017, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by humfrz

Well, that's what the owners manual says ....... but, did you check with you know who ...... ??

humfrz

LOL

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nocoolname · 06-19-2017, 08:58 PM

On the ethanol production part that Tcoat and extrashaky were talking about, from a farmer's view, ethanol subsidies have increased the price of corn somewhat so growing it is a bit more profitable. After the fermentation and ethanol production, the corn is still used as feed for livestock, it has been for years in the alcohol industry. It's mixed with other feed but still used. As for using the ground for corn instead of wheat, we grow wheat on corn and soybean ground in the winter for a cover crop and then harvest the wheat in the spring before planting corn and/or soybeans. I will tell you that it takes quite a bit of energy (i.e. fuel for tractors, combines, and semis) during the planting, spraying, harvesting and hauling of any grain. If you take that into account I would say that ethanol takes more energy to make than it creates by burning, while gasoline is probably more energy efficient in this case.

S84kam · 06-19-2017, 09:17 PM

i've been using regular for over 2 years and everything is great so far!

humfrz · 06-19-2017, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by S84kam

i've been using regular for over 2 years and everything is great so far!

So, your lawnmower is running good .. ?? ......

humfrz

Spuds · 06-19-2017, 09:31 PM

As I understand it, corn and corn product subsidies were originally put in place to stabilize wheat grain prices. If we grow too much wheat, then prices drop and bad things happen.

As for ethanol, just think of it as a "low tech" method of storing solar energy. In general, the more "high tech" something is, the more energy has gone into making it.

Just my .02.

Cole · 06-19-2017, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Spuds

As I understand it, corn and corn product subsidies were originally put in place to stabilize wheat grain prices. If we grow too much wheat, then prices drop and bad things happen.

As for ethanol, just think of it as a "low tech" method of storing solar energy. In general, the more "high tech" something is, the more energy has gone into making it.

Just my .02.

Good thing your two cents ain't worth shit since you're way off the mark.

humfrz · 06-19-2017, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Cole

Good thing your two cents ain't worth shit since you're way off the mark.

DANG! ....... Cole ....... why are you so grouchy this week ..... ??

humfrz

Gil Scott Heron · 06-20-2017, 03:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spuds

As I understand it, corn and corn product subsidies were originally put in place to stabilize wheat grain prices. If we grow too much wheat, then prices drop and bad things happen.

As for ethanol, just think of it as a "low tech" method of storing solar energy. In general, the more "high tech" something is, the more energy has gone into making it.

Just my .02.

Well, of course, the people in the tech industry hate other people and want them all dead. The more energy it takes to produce the high tech gadgets will leave less energy to feed and house the "lo tech" people. The plebes die off, the techies get their world... one that is sustainable for them only.

I say we kill off the tech industry and go back to dying the old fashioned way... with nature taking it's unpredictable course of famine and disease.

humfrz · 06-20-2017, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gil Scott Heron

Well, of course, the people in the tech industry hate other people and want them all dead. The more energy it takes to produce the high tech gadgets will leave less energy to feed and house the "lo tech" people. The plebes die off, the techies get their world... one that is sustainable for them only.

I say we kill off the tech industry and go back to dying the old fashioned way... with nature taking it's unpredictable course of famine and disease.

OR, just move to Kentucky ......

humfrz

HunterGreene · 06-20-2017, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humfrz

OR, just move to Kentucky ......

humfrz

I hear there is quite a bit of "disinfectant" there.

Scrappydoo · 06-20-2017, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humfrz

DANG! ....... Cole ....... why are you so grouchy this week ..... ??

humfrz

Month. It's a monthly thing.

humfrz · 06-20-2017, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Scrappydoo

Month. It's a monthly thing.

Is that monthly ....... or, time of the month ..... ??

humfrz

mrg666 · 06-20-2017, 07:21 PM

Actually, I think, manuals are okay with regular but automatics definitely need premium.

Just my 2c

06-19-2017, 08:58 PM	#297
nocoolname Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Drives: 2013 BRZ Location: Kentucky Posts: 66 Thanks: 17 Thanked 45 Times in 29 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	On the ethanol production part that Tcoat and extrashaky were talking about, from a farmer's view, ethanol subsidies have increased the price of corn somewhat so growing it is a bit more profitable. After the fermentation and ethanol production, the corn is still used as feed for livestock, it has been for years in the alcohol industry. It's mixed with other feed but still used. As for using the ground for corn instead of wheat, we grow wheat on corn and soybean ground in the winter for a cover crop and then harvest the wheat in the spring before planting corn and/or soybeans. I will tell you that it takes quite a bit of energy (i.e. fuel for tractors, combines, and semis) during the planting, spraying, harvesting and hauling of any grain. If you take that into account I would say that ethanol takes more energy to make than it creates by burning, while gasoline is probably more energy efficient in this case. __________________ 2001 MR-S - long, slow, rebuild 2000 MR-S - 2zz swapped daily 2013 BRZ limited - new toy

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S84kam Senior Member Join Date: May 2015 Drives: FBRZS Location: Kingston Posts: 268 Thanks: 254 Thanked 150 Times in 83 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	i've been using regular for over 2 years and everything is great so far!

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Spuds The Dictater Join Date: Apr 2017 Drives: '13 Red Scion FRS Location: MD, USA Posts: 9,427 Thanks: 26,108 Thanked 12,430 Times in 6,146 Posts Mentioned: 85 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	As I understand it, corn and corn product subsidies were originally put in place to stabilize wheat grain prices. If we grow too much wheat, then prices drop and bad things happen. As for ethanol, just think of it as a "low tech" method of storing solar energy. In general, the more "high tech" something is, the more energy has gone into making it. Just my .02.

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