Toyota Yaris WRC announced

[guybo]

After watching the Monte, it was nice to see Toyota in the WRC again and Citroen is back too. So that brings them back to 3 factory teams. The new cars remind me of the WRC cars from 10 years ago when costs started to skyrocket before they scaled back. I think in the WRC talent is still more important than machinery- Ogier is in a non-factory car but hasn't lost a step despite that and little pre-season testing. Ogier may turn out to be greater than Loeb was. Loeb, for as great as he was, always drove with one factotry team but Ogier has won rallies with Citroen, VW and now M-Sport in a Ford. He's going to win championships with 2 different Marques (let's face it- he's going to win it all again this year). Plus, he beat Loeb head-to-head in the same car.

[JD001]

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

Wait, so Toyota is going to make the 210hp version as a production model?

Another nail in the Twins coffin.. unless they decide to move the Twin to a higher performance bracket (we can all dream!).

[vh_supra26]

http://www.carscoops.com/2017/03/new...rged-with.html

Toyota has been promising for some time to release a hot hatch, and that's just what it's done at the 2017 Geneva Motor Show with the introduction of the new Yaris GRMN.

Tuned by the Japanese automaker's performance division (Gazoo Racing, Masters of the Nürburgring), the hot new Yaris is envisioned as the road-going counterpart to the rally machine Toyota fields in the WRC.

Motivation comes, as promised, from a forced-induction 1.8-liter four-cylinder engine. But where most of its rivals are turbocharged, the Yaris GRMN goes with a supercharger. 205 horsepower gallop as a result to the front wheels through a six-speed manual transmission. No fancypants DSGs or trick all-wheel drive systems here.

True to the division's name, the new hot hatch was honed on the Nürburgring Nordshleife. The suspension pairs short springs with Sachs shocks and a beefy anti-roll bar. It's packed with additional bracing – including a structural bar under the hood between the front suspension towers – to the benefit of torsional rigidity and handling. There's a Torsen-style limited-slip differential to help get the power to the tarmac. And ventilated brake discs with four-piston callipers up front, packed into 17-inch BBS alloys, help keep everything in check.

The three-door bodystyle is wrapped in specific bodywork, with fresh bumpers front and rear, a roof spoiler, and rear diffuser, with a special red and black over white livery. Even the interior has been upgraded with racing buckets, a leather-wrapped steering wheel lifted from the Toyota 86, and aluminum pedals – all of which only serves to further emphasize the point that this is no ordinary Yaris.

It's the first GRMN product that will be offered in Europe (or outside of Japan for that matter), but sadly doesn't look likely to be offered in North America. Unfortunately pricing and performance stats have yet to be released, but these initial details put the Yaris GRMN in prime position to take on the likes of the new Ford Fiesta ST, VW Polo GTI, and Renaultsport Clio.

[funwheeldrive]

but sadly doesn't look likely to be offered in North America.

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[vh_supra26]

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPuh_qvyV_4"]Toyota Yaris GRMN: The Dance - YouTube[/ame]

[darthpnoy1984]

Originally Posted by guybo

Rallying is not doing well. Attendance is way down and more manufacturers are leaving than coming in. I think cars like this are why. We all know that's not a real Yaris, but most people don't and let's be honest- a Yaris is a shit box economic and nothing to get excited about. IMHO Rallying needs Sportscars not econoboxes

Uhh yeah that shitbox with that bulletproof 1.3 or 1.5 Motor plentiful of cheap parts and etc..shit all you want but taxi cabs in ASEAN countries (Thailand and Philippines absolutely love them)



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[darthpnoy1984]

Sedan Variant Of the Vios/Yaris line being used in all Vios Cup series.




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[ST185RC]

Originally Posted by guybo

I think cars like this are why. We all know that's not a real Yaris, but most people don't and let's be honest- a Yaris is a shit box economic and nothing to get excited about. IMHO Rallying needs Sportscars not econoboxes

No, rally does not need sports cars..... It needs cheap econobox based cars that are light, and easy to take apart and throw a roll cage into and have readily available replacement parts... It's historically what WRC was about. At the end of the day, STi is still a beast motor stuffed into a econobox chassis.

Less work it is to get the homologation numbers out the better.

Yaris today is what the corolla was 2 decades ago. Perfect for banging up and rally platform. Corolla today is a bloated camry replacement while the camry moves up a tier as a test mule for lexus.

I for one think the Yaris would make a welcome addition into rally.

[ST185RC]

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZWS2ZXX9ms"]2017 Toyota Yaris WRC PURE Sound in Action @ Rallye Monte Carlo! - YouTube[/ame]

Yeah, not so friendly anymore is it?

[Scrappydoo]

Toyota Yaris in exciting shocker.

My skirt remains totally not blown up.

[guybo]

Originally Posted by ST185RC

No, rally does not need sports cars..... It needs cheap econobox based cars that are light, and easy to take apart and throw a roll cage into and have readily available replacement parts... It's historically what WRC was about. At the end of the day, STi is still a beast motor stuffed into a econobox chassis.

Less work it is to get the homologation numbers out the better.

Yaris today is what the corolla was 2 decades ago. Perfect for banging up and rally platform. Corolla today is a bloated camry replacement while the camry moves up a tier as a test mule for lexus.

I for one think the Yaris would make a welcome addition into rally.

In 1973 the Lancia Stratos changed all that and kicked off the best period for WRC (commercially speaking). That Stratos was an exotic sports car that rallied, not an econobox. In the upcoming years following Lancia's lead, Porsche, Ford, Peugeot, Audi etc all made sports cars to rally in, not shitbox grocery getters. Attendance and sponsorship money has gone down the toilet since the Group B era ended and the Group A econobox era started. Right now the WRC is just barely holding on and they've been in trouble for several years.

No one can say they'd rather see a Ford Focus over a RS200. Grocery getters don't attract crowds or excitement and so we get the WRC of today. WRC today actually has higher performing cars than Group B. But the sexiness of the high power, awesome noise and exotic cars of that era trump even the WRC cars of the late 00's. Exciting cars draw crowds and that was a big part of rallying in its heyday in the 70's and 80's.

The Yaris IS in WRC right now. I'm not sure what you mean by would. there's nothing cheap about these cars at all. They may as well start with an expensive exotic car it takes just as much work and money to convert it. These cars look like shit, have a shit name and no one cares so people aren't watching. Subaru pulled out of the WRC a log ass time ago- you have to catch up, kid. Subaru is no more a rallying brand than Lancia is. They saw the way it was going and bailed out. WRC is lacking in manufacturer teams. They're lucky if 12 full WRC cars start an event. Portugal had the most full WRC cars of any round enter this year... 14. Every rally has a WRC2 car in the points because there just are not enough full WRC cars and there's little interest in an econobox that costs over half a million U$D. That's a lot of groceries.

There are 4 major teams in the WRC now. Only 3 are factory teams. Toyota, Citroen and Hyundai. Not exactly a lineup you're going to buy a T-shirt for. Ford has a team but it is not a factory team. Citroen was a non-factory team for 2 years before returning this year.

[vh_supra26]

Toyota Yaris GRMN Will Be Limited To 400 Units In Europe

Toyota is making a long-awaited return to the performance market and especially at the hot hatch segment with the new Yaris GRMN but as it turns out, the company isn’t planning to sell as many as they can.

The Japanese company will cap production of Europe’s first Gazoo Racing model to just 400 units for the European market, with more than 100 of them destined for the UK, according to Autocar.

Development of the Yaris GRMN hasn’t finished yet, with Toyota set to start production at the end of autumn.

Toyota wants the new Yaris GRMN to be the lightest, fastest and most powerful model in the segment. Power comes from a supercharged 1.8-liter four-cylinder engine that makes around 210hp while the only transmission option is a six-speed manual gearbox.

The chassis has been stiffened with the use of additional bracing while the suspension now utilizes shorter springs and a set of fixed-rate Sachs dampers. A Torsen limited-slip differential is also present, to help the car cope with the increased power. There are no fancy driving modes and other gadgets here as Toyota followed a very simple -and hopefully fun- recipe in order to create the hottest Yaris ever.

First driving impressions already talk about a very amusing-to-drive hot hatch, so it’s interesting to see how the finished Toyota Yaris GRMN will be like once it hits the market. That is of course if you’re able to secure one, because with only 400 ever made, this one will remain one rare sight.

[why?]

that is so damn lame. What on earth are they scared of? Take any Yaris and give it an aftermarket suspension and it is fun as hell, but only 400? And only fwd? dull.

[JD001]

Interesting article in this month's Evo magazine about the new Yaris GRMN. The opening paragraph I found amusing....