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Old 05-30-2012, 08:16 AM   #15
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hell yeah i say why not..... if you have the money to spend and want to spend it, then make something awesome and ill over it! LOL. im sure they will makes tons of power and slide like a penguin on ice! I still wish people would focus on the platform provided first but hey to each their own!!! Ill be watching!
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Old 05-30-2012, 08:57 AM   #16
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An all-aluminum LSx would be a better match for this car if it will fit. Low-weight as far back as possible.
This. And I imagine we'll see it happen before too long.
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I would love to see some high HP FA20s, but to make the real reliable power a swap I think wouldn't be a bad move for a street or drag car.

Any motorsport other than drifting isn't a fan of 2JZ and LS swaps though... So I'll be sticking with the FA20.
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Old 05-30-2012, 05:34 PM   #18
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FA20 is a nice enough motor, but until there is some kind of tuning solution / unlock for the stock ECU its going to be pretty hard to utilize it properly. None of the currently available standalones will control the direct injection unit.

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Old 05-30-2012, 05:51 PM   #19
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Handling and weight balance aside, the 2JZ is an old-ass motor, and a stupid swap because no one else is going to look at it and say "oh yeah, it's totally feasible for me to do that!" The last 2JZ engine was offered in what, 2005? It would never be emissions legal in all but the most careless states, and the platform has been beaten to death, so why not work with the new engine and push the FA20 forward, rather than going backward? That to me is the equivalent of watching NASCAR. The car on the outside looks like a Toyota Camry, but underneath its a tube frame chassis with a (now only recently fuel-injected) big V8 and a solid rear axle. Nothing that normal people would ever aspire to. ("Hoo-doogy! I just bought this brand new 2012 Camry and I'ma tube it and put a big ol' honkin' V8 in there! 'Merica!!") At least if you're going to do a swap, put something modern in there that can potentially be road-legal. Just my $.02

But as long as we're talking ridiculous swaps, how about an LF-A motor?
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Old 05-30-2012, 06:31 PM   #20
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Handling and weight balance aside, the 2JZ is an old-ass motor, and a stupid swap because no one else is going to look at it and say "oh yeah, it's totally feasible for me to do that!" The last 2JZ engine was offered in what, 2005? It would never be emissions legal in all but the most careless states, and the platform has been beaten to death, so why not work with the new engine and push the FA20 forward, rather than going backward? That to me is the equivalent of watching NASCAR. The car on the outside looks like a Toyota Camry, but underneath its a tube frame chassis with a (now only recently fuel-injected) big V8 and a solid rear axle. Nothing that normal people would ever aspire to. ("Hoo-doogy! I just bought this brand new 2012 Camry and I'ma tube it and put a big ol' honkin' V8 in there! 'Merica!!") At least if you're going to do a swap, put something modern in there that can potentially be road-legal. Just my $.02

But as long as we're talking ridiculous swaps, how about an LF-A motor?
If you wanted to go absolutely absurd with it, an LS-9 gets you 638 emissions compliant horsepower for only $21k compared to that lump of unobtainium.
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if they mass produced anything similar to that LFA engine(to lower the cost) id be allllllll over it. god it sounds amazing
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Old 05-30-2012, 10:12 PM   #22
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if they mass produced anything similar to that LFA engine(to lower the cost) id be allllllll over it. god it sounds amazing
The BMW 5.0L S85 V10 from the previous generation M5 and M6 has just north of 500hp.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_S85

As does the 5.2L Audi put in the R8, with slightly lower-powered versions in the S6 and S8.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._560-4.2FR8.29
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I was hoping this would come up soon... I was so excited when I clicked on the topic but now I am gladly calmer. I love learning. It is an old motor- albeit an awesome one... im sure there are much better swaps... BMW straight 6? nvm, but I much prefer the idea of working with this awesome new motor. 2.0 liter boxer- i see huge potential... new, clean, potential... There isnt much JDM support for direct injection- let alone this new system which uses port also... a lot of new awesome gear is going to come out and I say wait- master the car stock... learn its weaknesses... when everything is properly R&D, then tune the balls off it!
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Old 06-03-2012, 04:02 AM   #25
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The BMW 5.0L S85 V10 from the previous generation M5 and M6 has just north of 500hp.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_S85
that is actually very interesting, high revving v10 is just way too much awesome, especially after the second revamp to allow traction control OFF mode, i might see if i can have a go at measuring a mates m5 to see how big the engine is, i know he is thinking of another car soon so he could possibly be T-boned my a 4x4 in the near future lol.

we've done a few LS, 427, 2jz, 1.5jz, rb30, 3sgte and countless honda swaps in the past and its been great but never a v10, we even had a crashed Ferrari 360 we could of butchered but never got the time to, and sold onto the next poor sod to deal with the Italiano spaghetti they call a wiring harness.



a 2jz in a rx7 is close to being on the line of "too far forward" already, in a smaller car like the frs/brz is just madness, go find a s13 silvia with a rb25 engine swap and it would be pretty spot on for how it handles, and how useless they are for anything part from straight line work,
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Old 06-03-2012, 04:55 AM   #26
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that is actually very interesting, high revving v10 is just way too much awesome, especially after the second revamp to allow traction control OFF mode, i might see if i can have a go at measuring a mates m5 to see how big the engine is, i know he is thinking of another car soon so he could possibly be T-boned my a 4x4 in the near future lol.

we've done a few LS, 427, 2jz, 1.5jz, rb30, 3sgte and countless honda swaps in the past and its been great but never a v10, we even had a crashed Ferrari 360 we could of butchered but never got the time to, and sold onto the next poor sod to deal with the Italiano spaghetti they call a wiring harness.



a 2jz in a rx7 is close to being on the line of "too far forward" already, in a smaller car like the frs/brz is just madness, go find a s13 silvia with a rb25 engine swap and it would be pretty spot on for how it handles, and how useless they are for anything part from straight line work,
DO IT!!
A gentleman of my acquaintance with knowledge of the issue claims that the BMW engine you're referring to actually dyno'd closer to 700bhp, but was downplayed for insurance reasons.
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2jz? Cool but nahh if anything i would like to see a 20v 4age like real old school or a beams motor
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A fully built 3s-gte would be my pic but would be a fun job. You can still get relatively new ones from JDM caldinas and stuff too.
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