llcoolchris77 is a scammer.

[JS + BRZ]

Just wanted to make a thread to let other members know that llcoolchris77 is a scammer.

His trading thread:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60956

I have talked to the moderators about him and they advised me to make a thread here, so nobody will get scammed by him again.

I have gather a lot of information about him. Just not sure it's even legal to post them here.

Basically, he posted up a TRD catback for $300. I sent him a Paypal payment. He stopped responding to my PM/emails after.

Well, he did emailed me couple times. He was supposed to ship out the exhaust on last Tuesday. He didn't, so I emailed him about the status. He said he was too busy and would send it out on Wednesday. He didn't. On Thursday, I sent him multiple emails regarding the status of the item, he simply said he texted me the tracking #. He didn't.

After that, he simply ignored all the emails that I had sent. Probably put me on spam email.

I wanted to send him $300+3% as a paypal standard payment, but he insisted that he needed the money to ship out the exhaust. So, I ended up gifting the paypal. I knew some things sounded a little suspicious, but we went through +20 PMs and he sounded pretty honest. Oh, he emailed me new photos of the exhaust too.

And it was just $300, so I took a chance. If it was anything more than $300, I wouldn't have jumped on it.

Since the paypal payment was sent as a gift, I know I won't be getting any of that back. Just wanted to let other fellow members to know that this guy is a scammer.

My friend found a lot of his personal information including his pictures/phone number/name/his 3 email addresses/his other car & plate number/instagram/other forums that he is involved in.

At this point, I know I'm not getting any of my money back nor any piece of TRD catback exhaust.

Is it even legal to post all those in this thread? Wasn't sure, so didn't post any yet.

Thanks guys.

[JS + BRZ]

Oh by the way, to take away the sadness away, I jumped on a great deal on JDM exhaust tips on last Saturday from a very cool local FRS owner.

[ZionsWrath]

Yea, don't gift on paypal...

[Burrcold]

That's shitty man. Go handle your business with him face to face

[JS + BRZ]

Originally Posted by ZionsWrath

Yea, don't gift on paypal...

Yeah, I didn't think any 86 owners would be a douchebag to scam other 86 owners.

To be honest, I've met a lot of local 86 owners and everyone is super cool and chill.

Originally Posted by Burrcold

That's shitty man. Go handle your business with him face to face

He used to live in Maryland (his 77 VW car has a Maryland plate on it) but supposedly moved to Nebraska. I'm in LA.

And it's $300. Not large enough to make a drama out of it. Nobody wins.

Really just hope he'll become a better person in the future. lol Maybe he's just too young and needed some cash to party or something.

[leicaboss]

Well, you should try pursuing this somehow - $300 is quite a bit of money.

I've sold tons of things via gift payment (me being the receiver of gift payments), and while I was an honest seller and in total control of that, I couldn't say the same for others. That being said, I'm willing to shell out the extra few bucks or just negotiate the price to include the transaction fee.

Good luck man!

[Kimsey47]

Check out and see if he has a record. Some scammer did this to a friend over football tickets... Turned out dude was on parole and after a friendly call to his parole officer the scammer was in the slammer. Poetic justice!

[JS + BRZ]

Originally Posted by leicaboss

Well, you should try pursuing this somehow - $300 is quite a bit of money.

I've sold tons of things via gift payment (me being the receiver of gift payments), and while I was an honest seller and in total control of that, I couldn't say the same for others. That being said, I'm willing to shell out the extra few bucks or just negotiate the price to include the transaction fee.

Good luck man!

I don't know how to pursue this. I've done plenty of transactions online. Never have been the victim of scamming. I mean I even have his phone number but I'm sure he'll just ignore me. haha

Usually I add 3% and make the payment as a standard. And gift the payment to the people I know.

Thanks man!

[luuser75]

wow. i knew that price was too good to be true...

also what's the difference between gifting it vs. the 300 plus 3%? wouldn't he still be getting 300 either way or would gifting it go to his account faster?

[dbrandt01]

Guys like that always make it bad for sellers. Like me I put up something for sale, but having no trader rating makes it hard. I've sold stuff on truck forums though. It's always nerve racking buying from others, but it has it's benefits at the same time.

Good thread though, i remember seeing that and thinking it was a hell of a deal.

[ZionsWrath]

Originally Posted by dbrandt01

Guys like that always make it bad for sellers. Like me I put up something for sale, but having no trader rating makes it hard. I've sold stuff on truck forums though. It's always nerve racking buying from others, but it has it's benefits at the same time.

Good thread though, i remember seeing that and thinking it was a hell of a deal.

As long as payment is sent the normal way and not gift it shouldn't matter you have no rating, the buyer has some level of recourse.

[JS + BRZ]

Originally Posted by luuser75

wow. i knew that price was too good to be true...

also what's the difference between gifting it vs. the 300 plus 3%? wouldn't he still be getting 300 either way or would gifting it go to his account faster?

Yes, he gets $300 either way.

But I think gifting payment will let him transfer the fund to his bank account right away.

And he is basically "protected" from getting shafted by Paypal. Even if I call Paypal and files a dispute, they won't do anything since it wasn't sent as a standard.

[was385]

Originally Posted by JS + BRZ

Yes, he gets $300 either way.

But I think gifting payment will let him transfer the fund to his bank account right away.

And he is basically "protected" from getting shafted by Paypal. Even if I call Paypal and files a dispute, they won't do anything since it wasn't sent as a standard.

They may suspend his account for breaking the terms of service (using gifting for a sale of goods). Not sure how that works though.

[Carlitoz3]

300 isn't a lot, but it's still $ Sorry that happened to you.
Thanks for the heads up