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Old 09-21-2013, 04:50 PM   #15
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Google is your friend. Some of the advice here is just terrible. Whaap is right, its sounding like your are discovering rail dust for the first time, clay bar is the solution. Google away, or autopia.org but dont dare start a new thread.
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Old 09-24-2013, 11:38 AM   #16
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Sorry but "wash it and leave it in the sun" is terrible advice.

The tree sap is acidic and will discolor and eat clear coat VERY quick. Denatured alcohol is fantastic at eliminating tree sap, if you don't have that, a Dryer sheet and water will work great as well. Don't leave it in the sun. If you can at all avoid it being in direct sunlight, do so. Excessive surface temperature acts as a catalyst for chemical bonding and can exacerbate foreign materials damage to the paint.
If you have already washed the car, clay bar and hand buff with wax and you still can feel it by running your finger over it them leaving it in the sun is a bad idea.

But if you have done all that and it feels smooth than there is no sap on there and it is most likely the yellow rail rust spots.

It may be "terrible" advice but I had the tiny yellow spots and freaked out about them. Called the guy who paint corrected and opticoated my car and he said to leave in the sun. Boom, they went away.
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Old 09-24-2013, 04:33 PM   #17
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I've had this tree sap and yellow spots thing on my whiteout before time and time again since ownership. Seems to go away on its own with sunlight, rain, and car washing. Cleaner wax might help as well.
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Old 09-27-2013, 03:18 PM   #18
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UPDATE: week or two now, tried every product right down to alcohol and nail polish remover, been parked in the sun constantly, and they don't seem to be going anywhere. Took it to a detail shop today in town and he went at it with escalating chemicals, ending with alcohol and he couldn't get it, when I asked about wet sanding he seemed reluctant and didn't think it would come off after he just went at it with alcohol for 10 minutes. ...FUCK!!!

Anyways, here's the pics I never got around to posting, not the worst thing, but still shitty on a car that hasn't even hit 5k yet, not to mention it's also my first new car!
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Any advice? @Mr. Sparkle. I need a lifesaver
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Go to a better detailer. Where do you live?
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Hey @Muskokan, I get the same thing on my Whiteout as well. You can imagine how pissed I was when I saw them for the first time ("What the hell? This car is 3 months old and the extra $200 paint job is already permanently marred?!") This is !

I wash my car pretty regularly. I have yet to wax, and after a wash I see these yellow tree sap-looking stains that cannot be rubbed out, no matter how hard I try. But strangely, after parking in the sun on the next day I no longer see them. I was confused until I read this thread as well.

FWIW, your spots look really similar to mine. Still don't know what they are, but they are back every two weeks. I'll try to get a pic of mine to see if we have the same problem when it comes back.
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Okay thanks for the advice, and yea they're weird streaks that look like residue a certain angles now anyway to get rid of that?

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someone else beat me to it. try a different detailer. Don't let anyone wetsand that. Its either tree sap (stoners tarminator or possibly even a cleaner wax with a DA polisher) or a rust bloom (try IronX or something equivalent)

or its some type of damage and its rusting from underneath (not likely). Either way I don't see wetsanding doing anything. if its on top of the paint theres a way to remove it


and I'm cringing at the thought of nail polish remover on there. that spot must be marred up pretty good by now :-(

I'm in muskoka, travel down to missisauga and Niagra sometimes.


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I'm in muskoka, travel down to missisauga and Niagra sometimes.
If you come in to Mississauga, go see Kevin at GTA In Detail and I'm positive he would be able to help. The guy is a detailing genius!!
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AutoGlym Tree Sap remover from canadian tire will get that off. i had the same stains and it worked great.
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From the not so clear photos my money is that its rust particles in the paint. You will get these on ALL paints but you see them much easier on white. Get some iron X and disolve them, you can also clay them, but its likely you will just shave the tops off of the particles.

If you drive a car on roads that has a snow, and the road is plowed, you will get these. It is my opinion that the blades on the plow leave behind metal shavings in the snow they then get splattered onto the paint sticking into the paint. I decon my paint each spring from this.

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