This Is Honda's New Project 2&4 Concept Powered By A MotoGP-Sourced V4

[SCQTT]

I like those belts! Cool, but like KTM's XBow, it will never see the light of day in America. If you like it buy a Slingshot.

Beautiful though.

[gymratter]

Originally Posted by zigzagz94

Left lane news might have gotten a spy shot of this mystery project. Looks similar to the patent drawings to me.

http://www.leftlanenews.com/spied-is...nsx-94896.html

yeah it does look similar. but this should really be in the baby NSX / S2k threads.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92276
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=106020

[zigzagz94]

Originally Posted by SCQTT

... it will never see the light of day in America.

Beautiful though.

You may be right but judging from the license plates in the background of the newest spy shots it is testing in the states. Seems like a lot of effort on Honda's part to have both a coupe and roadster version of a car that isn't going to see the light of day. It's all speculation, but all the other Japanese makes are showing sports car concepts at Tokyo this year and I'm guessing this will be Honda's "surprise".

[Tcoat]

Spy shots my ass. Whoever took those was allowed too. They walked all the way around the car for crying out loud.
Concept car is concept car.


Oh and autoguide also makes claims on them
http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...onda-zsx-.html

[zigzagz94]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Spy shots my ass. Whoever took those was allowed too. They walked all the way around the car for crying out loud.l

Agreed. Too may details conveniently leaking out about this car all at the same time. First the updated patents and now these photos. Definitely feels like a controlled leak. That's why I put the surprise in quotes because I think it's just a matter of when not if we see this concept at an auto show this year. As far as production possibility who the hell knows...I'd give it 50/50 shot at best.

[Leonardo]

Love the little Honda! Very cool! It will be track only, IF it makes it to the US. 4 wheels = Car Cars have to pass crash testing. This is why the Polaris slingshot has three wheels. less than 4 wheels = motorcycle with no crash testing.

Correct me if I am wrong. Cause, I would love to drive something like this on public roads!!!

[strat61caster]

Looks like an NSX built for SEMA, just like the targa FRS.

[krayzie]

Originally Posted by zigzagz94

Definitely feels like a controlled leak.

Yea I miss all those exciting blurry live spy shots from the old Temple of Vtec days lol!

[gymratter]

more patent photos

[SCQTT]

Originally Posted by zigzagz94

You may be right but judging from the license plates in the background of the newest spy shots it is testing in the states. Seems like a lot of effort on Honda's part to have both a coupe and roadster version of a car that isn't going to see the light of day. It's all speculation, but all the other Japanese makes are showing sports car concepts at Tokyo this year and I'm guessing this will be Honda's "surprise".

If this sees the light of day in the US for street use I'll gladly make you a bet that I will buy you one, what are you putting up? The KTM XBow was 60 million US to develop. It will never be sold in the US officially. There are a few here through the grey market for track day cars, but that is it. Honda likes the profit of stamping out Civics with nice profit margins, people should be thankful they make a hotrod version of that from time to time, but they are not overly interested in flexing their engineering muscles. From time to time they show off what they can do, but they mostly play it safe when it comes to product development. They made their first side by side and personal watercraft 10 years after the competition and they made the Fury 10 years after they should have. They can go wild, like the NR or the RC213 V-S, but they normally play it safe.

This vehicle is really cool, but it is so far away from what DOT regulations would allow, ridiculously far away.

Besides, Honda did not do this, a design firm did it. They might have been hired by Honda or went rouge and just used Honda as a platform. Somewhere else on this forum I mentioned that the best designs come from small teams or individuals, not a collective corporate group.

The difference between this and the street going Slingshot does not look that dramatic, but one only has to look at the product development of Polaris Industries compared to Honda to see the risks each company are willing to take. Look at each companies side by side offering. Polaris is still fighting at the state level in certain areas to get the Slingshot officially approved as a street vehicle (and what it is specifically) Honda wants ZERO part of that stuff. For every Slingshot that is sold Honda probably sells 10,000 Civics.

This little Honda is a cool auto show attention getter, it ends there.

[gymratter]

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[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by Twinz

And only 900lbs that 212hp needs to move.

So, there's that.

How much torque? A motorcycle is half that weight. There is a reason, besides reliability, that motorcycle engines arent in cars--high reving hp is great but not if there isn't enough torque to reach those rpm's fast enough.

[Vracer111]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

How much torque? A motorcycle is half that weight. There is a reason, besides reliability, that motorcycle engines arent in cars--high reving hp is great but not if there isn't enough torque to reach those rpm's fast enough.

There's this motor though:

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5Q_rGllPVs"]JUN BRZ with SYNERGY V8 2.4L ENGINE SHAKEDOWN!!! - YouTube[/ame]

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by Vracer111

There's this motor though:

Translation please