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FA20Club.com · 07-11-2013, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jtymay92

So this netted 10whp on stock exhaust?

my white car is now completely stock air box over pipe front pipe exhaust.

Jtymay92 · 07-11-2013, 10:40 PM

Awesome! So when do the tunning results on a full intake and exhaust setup come in?

FA20Club.com · 07-11-2013, 10:45 PM

none of our 2 cars are equipped for anything other than what we tested today. they are both going back FI pretty soon. generally thats how we have always released our products. we can only test so many options we work with what we have considering i swapped the header on the two of these cars a couple times this week to get this far.

Raven604 · 07-11-2013, 11:37 PM

woah im surprised... almost 15-20hp less then your EL header... but i must admit it sounds pretty badass.... too bad its 150$ more... kind of a deal breaker

FA20Club.com · 07-11-2013, 11:40 PM

EL was tested on e85 to begin with this is 93

Raven604 · 07-11-2013, 11:46 PM

ah i see. that changes everything. count me in then! woohoo!

tisb0b · 07-11-2013, 11:56 PM

@FA20Club.com: Is it possible to do a drive by video with your UEL and otherwise stock exhaust system? Because with the video you posted you can't get a good idea of how the thing sounds.

jflogerzi · 07-12-2013, 12:17 AM

Just to be clear these numbers where on 93 and no tune IE stock ECU settings? @FA20Club.com

FA20Club.com · 07-12-2013, 12:20 AM

probably wont happen anytime soon cause its not on the car we have been using the same header on both cars.

FA20Club.com · 07-12-2013, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by jflogerzi

Just to be clear these numbers where on 93 and no tune IE stock ECU settings? @FA20Club.com

the white cars is stock ecu i flashed it back to stock to make it a true stock test. the black car has a canned tuned i did last september and has never been touched agains. its our manual car road race car with 3400 miles. the before numbers on that chart are from the last time we had it on the dyno vs today with the header & tune untouched. im sure i could pull more out but i dont want to tinker with either car too much. the tune was left on the car because its has an intake on it and the maf was scaled for it so i didnt want to go backwards.

jflogerzi · 07-12-2013, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by FA20Club.com

the white cars is stock ecu i flashed it back to stock to make it a true stock test. the black car has a canned tuned i did last september and has never been touched agains. its our manual car road race car with 3400 miles. the before numbers on that chart are from the last time we had it on the dyno vs today with the header & tune untouched. im sure i could pull more out but i dont want to tinker with either car too much. the tune was left on the car because its has an intake on it and the maf was scaled for it so i didnt want to go backwards.

So in your opinion, whats the difference between the UEL and EL if both are running on the same car WHP and WTQ? What I really see missing is the really nice mid range TQ bump from the EL.

FA20Club.com · 07-12-2013, 12:48 AM

you have to remember that most of that is from E85. the tank is almost empty on the black car in preparation for E85 tune. and before anyone asks i wont be doing anymore testing on the white cars stock setup. the last test will be the black car with e85

jflogerzi · 07-12-2013, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by FA20Club.com

you have to remember that most of that is from E85. the tank is almost empty on the black car in preparation for E85 tune. and before anyone asks i wont be doing anymore testing on the white cars stock setup. the last test will be the black car with e85

look forward to that

troek · 07-12-2013, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Raven604

woah im surprised... almost 15-20hp less then your EL header... but i must admit it sounds pretty badass.... too bad its 150$ more... kind of a deal breaker

$150 more? i havnt seen a price yet, did i miss something?

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07-11-2013, 10:40 PM	#128
Jtymay92 Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2013 Raven Scion FRS Location: Victoria TX Posts: 77 Thanks: 26 Thanked 12 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Awesome! So when do the tunning results on a full intake and exhaust setup come in?

07-11-2013, 10:45 PM	#129
FA20Club.com Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 2013 White Out FR-S Location: Florida Posts: 1,335 Thanks: 24 Thanked 1,162 Times in 501 Posts Mentioned: 323 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	none of our 2 cars are equipped for anything other than what we tested today. they are both going back FI pretty soon. generally thats how we have always released our products. we can only test so many options we work with what we have considering i swapped the header on the two of these cars a couple times this week to get this far.

07-11-2013, 11:37 PM	#130
Raven604 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Location: Vancouver Posts: 328 Thanks: 93 Thanked 113 Times in 65 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	woah im surprised... almost 15-20hp less then your EL header... but i must admit it sounds pretty badass.... too bad its 150$ more... kind of a deal breaker

07-11-2013, 11:40 PM	#131
FA20Club.com Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 2013 White Out FR-S Location: Florida Posts: 1,335 Thanks: 24 Thanked 1,162 Times in 501 Posts Mentioned: 323 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	EL was tested on e85 to begin with this is 93

07-11-2013, 11:46 PM	#132
Raven604 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Location: Vancouver Posts: 328 Thanks: 93 Thanked 113 Times in 65 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	ah i see. that changes everything. count me in then! woohoo!

07-11-2013, 11:56 PM	#133
tisb0b Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: Grey GT86 MT Location: QLD, Australia Posts: 132 Thanks: 35 Thanked 50 Times in 33 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	@FA20Club.com: Is it possible to do a drive by video with your UEL and otherwise stock exhaust system? Because with the video you posted you can't get a good idea of how the thing sounds.

07-12-2013, 12:20 AM	#135
FA20Club.com Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 2013 White Out FR-S Location: Florida Posts: 1,335 Thanks: 24 Thanked 1,162 Times in 501 Posts Mentioned: 323 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	probably wont happen anytime soon cause its not on the car we have been using the same header on both cars.

07-12-2013, 12:48 AM	#138
FA20Club.com Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 2013 White Out FR-S Location: Florida Posts: 1,335 Thanks: 24 Thanked 1,162 Times in 501 Posts Mentioned: 323 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	you have to remember that most of that is from E85. the tank is almost empty on the black car in preparation for E85 tune. and before anyone asks i wont be doing anymore testing on the white cars stock setup. the last test will be the black car with e85

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