Ditch Evo X for FR-S or wait?

[Rampage]

I did not read all the responses so this is just my opinion. Anyone that ask about a FR-S and then the very next question has "turbo" in it should not buy a FR-S.

If you need to lower the amount of cash going to a car then buying a cheaper car and then spending $5K++ to turbo it just undos everything you were trying to accomplish. A lot of guys have already discovered a turbo FR-S ain't all that and you see them up for sale all the time on here. Plus putting a turbo on a high compression engine with no internal work is not the best idea in the world. You should only do that if you can afford to replace the engine if it blows. Where is that money going to come from?

I do not think a turbo FR-S is the answer to your prayers.

[thill]

Originally Posted by Bergen23

Uhm, rocket bunny doesn't void warranty. Except for maybe on the corrosion side of things. But it would be hard for Scion to prove that you putting wider fenders onto your car made your engine explode in a ball of regret and tears.

He said he wants to add forced induction which nullifies your powertrain warranty. Rocket Bunny kits are very polarizing. People either like them or hate them and it adds like to no value to the car and makes it harder to sell.

[soulreapersteve]

I thought I was paying my left arm every month... jeeze those numbers!

Anyways, you mentioned that you are getting engaged. Plan on having a family? Even though you can make the backseat of the Twins work, I would imagine it'll be much easier in the Evo. As others have said, bite the bullet and keep it. Used Twins will still be around in the future.

[DarkSunrise]

Why not get a factory turbo RWD car like an Ecoboost Mustang or Genesis coupe? If you're on a budget, it would make a lot more sense than adding FI to a Twin.

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by evostanman

I love my evo very much too. Power is there (350WHP), handles great, looks like it's going to kill you and has 4 doors. Some friends are advising me to stick it out and wait for a turbo version FR-S as a second car. (if it ever comes out)

You already answered your own question.

If you want to turbo the FRS to match the power output of the Evo, be prepared to throw away the warranty and be on the hook for any/all issues that may arise.

If you want to wait for a turbo version, you'll be dead before the car shows up. Toyota/Subaru can make a turbo version if they want to, but you have to look at a turbo FRS or turbo BRZ in the context of their product stack and how it fits with their target demographics.

A better question is: for $35-40k, which would you rather have? A turbo BRZ, or a turbo WRX STi? STi sales will be cannibalized and that is not sales growth, that is market share shifting. The share shifting part is very important when it comes to how OEMs position product.

-alex

[kmbkk]

Hell, I might be willing to trade my turboed FRS for your EVO.

[gixxer]

You probably won't be saving anything since your evo will hold value while a new FRS will drop. I had lease a Fiesta ST which is a fun little car and I'm replacing that with a FRS, focus RS or final edition Evo X next year probably.


If you must go FRS consider the BRZ because cheaper insurance. If you downgrade to a Fiesta ST you will save insurance. Just remember marriage and after marriage is expensive.

[F3RGY68]

Originally Posted by gixxer

If you must go FRS consider the BRZ because cheaper insurance. If you downgrade to a Fiesta ST you will save insurance.

My insurance is the same as my girlfriend's 2015 Corolla; both considered passenger cars. Maybe different for different companies or states.
Op keep the Evo and enjoy as is.

[soulreapersteve]

Originally Posted by gixxer

If you must go FRS consider the BRZ because cheaper insurance. If you downgrade to a Fiesta ST you will save insurance. Just remember marriage and after marriage is expensive.

When I got my insurance quote, the FRS was 1 dollar more expensive than the BRZ. 1 dollar.

[weederr33]

Originally Posted by soulreapersteve

When I got my insurance quote, the FRS was 1 dollar more expensive than the BRZ. 1 dollar.

That dollar is one less dollar to spend on more toys!

[soulreapersteve]

Originally Posted by weederr33

That dollar is one less dollar to spend on more toys!

LOL! If I went with the BRZ, I can go buy an ebay/autozone exhaust within a year!

[Kerune]

If I had to pick one major con for the twins, it's definitely the resale value - it's really made me rethink about how much money I'd like to put into it if I had a car in mind 5-7 years down the road.

Coming from STIs and EVOs that hold their value real well, you'd be taking an even bigger financial hit switching over if you ever had to consider their values.

[Packofcrows]

If you come from a Evo...keep it. Buy a $10k FR-S in 2 years in real good shape! I've seen many with less than 50k for $15-18k already. Re-finance.

[Wise]

I came from a 600 rwhp Supra to the 86 and let me tell you the power was an adjustment.

But to be honest the only time I really miss the Supra is when I need to pass someone on a one lane country road. That can be quite interesting in the 86.

The 86 gives me more joy for all around driving. The chassis is just sublime for daily and spirited driving. With the Supra I could never drive it at 10/10ths on a twisty road or I would crash and die. With the 86 I can drive it comfortably drive it hard and fast and I feel like it's teaching me to be a better driver every day.

Personally I don't think the 86 needs a turbo to satisfy. It does however need a header and a tune to correct the torque dip and give it back it's low to mid range torque.