alignment with Eibach springs?

[zooki]

Anybody have a problem with alignment after installing the Eibach Pro-line springs? I have ordered adjustable strut bolts for the front, but was wondering about the rear. Any problems, or can the stock adjustments handle te springs? Thanks.

[Dave-ROR]

Depends on what you want for rear camber. If you have too much rear camber you can pull some out with the whiteline adjusters for fairly cheap.

[zooki]

Probably just aligned back to stock specs. This is my daily driver, don't need anything too aggressive.

[switchlanez]

According to: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...382#post296382

Originally Posted by Evasive Motorsports

EIBACH PRO-KIT SCION FR-S & SUBARU BRZ


TECHNICAL INFORMATION
FRONT:
FR-S OE rate: 23 N/mm (131 lbs/in)
BRZ OE rate: 27 N/mm (153 lbs/in)
PK rate: 26-35-65 N/mm (148-200-371 lbs/in)
Tubing: No
Bump-stop: New Eibach bump-stop
Damper: OE
OE wheel center to fender: 370 mm (14.6 in)
PK wheel center to fender: 345 mm (13.6 in)

Front Alignment:
OE Camber = 0.00 deg (+/-0.75 deg)
OE Caster = 5.9 deg (+/-0.00 deg)
OE Total Toe = 0.0 deg (+/-0.18 deg)
PK Camber = -0.2 deg
PK Caster = 5.9 deg
PK Toe = 0.0 deg

Approximate installation time: 1.0 hr

REAR:
FR-S OE rate: 37 N/mm (211lbs/in)
BRZ OE rate: 34 N/mm (195 lbs/in)
PK rate: 18-48-68 N/mm (103-274-388 lbs/in)
Tubing: Yes
Bump-stop: New Eibach bump-stop
Damper: OE
OE wheel center to fender: 370 mm (14.6 in)
PK wheel center to fender: 345 mm (13.6 in)

Rear Alignment:
OE Camber = -1.25 +/-0.75 deg.
OE Total Toe = 0.12 deg. +/-0.18 deg
PK Camber = -1.7 deg.
PK Total Toe = 0.12 deg

PRO-KIT can be aligned to OE specifications.

[Jackson]

Eibach is currently designing adjustable rear arms to adjust camber and toe for the FR-S and BRZ. They will be needed to dial in preferred alignment specs if you modify your ride with springs or coilovers.

[zooki]

When can we expect these, and how much?

[Jackson]

Originally Posted by zooki

When can we expect these, and how much?

They are still in the design phase but all of the parts we're developing for these cars are high priority. I'm hoping we'll have pieces in the next month or two. I'm sure updates will be posted by myself or others as we have more info and photos to share.

[ultra]

I don't see how they can claim that the car can be aligned back to stock specs without aftermarket camber adjusters. The car has no camber adjustment stock.

Bit skeptical.

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by ultra

I don't see how they can claim that the car can be aligned back to stock specs without aftermarket camber adjusters. The car has no camber adjustment stock.

Bit skeptical.

OE Spec is 1.25 +/- .75, or .5-2.00. They measured 1.7, which is in the OE range.

[Synack]

Wait wait wait. If I am reading this correctly, stock front camber is ZERO and rear is -1.25????

That seems stupid to me. You'd figure it would be front camber around -0.5 to -0.75 and the rear around -0.25 to -0.5.

Personally I'll be running about -1.25 up front and -1 in the rear; for drifting.

[ultra]

Originally Posted by Synack

Wait wait wait. If I am reading this correctly, stock front camber is ZERO and rear is -1.25????

That seems stupid to me. You'd figure it would be front camber around -0.5 to -0.75 and the rear around -0.25 to -0.5.

Personally I'll be running about -1.25 up front and -1 in the rear; for drifting.

Whiteline said pretty much that in their video analysis of the OEM suspension.

IIRC they saw around 0 degrees of camber up front and -1.1 or so in the rear, with slight toe out front and a little toe in out back.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11210

What I'm curious about what Eibach means when they claim that the alignment can be *adjuated* to factory specs when it's pretty widely known that the car doesn't have any camber adjustment from the factory.

Saying that the alignment 'happens to fall within OEM tolerances' with the springs installed would have been clearer than saying tha it cam be adjusted.

Unless they're referring to toe only.

[Synack]

Originally Posted by ultra

Whiteline said pretty much that in their video analysis of the OEM suspension.

IIRC they saw around 0 degrees of camber up front and -1.1 or so in the rear, with slight toe out front and a little toe in out back.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11210

What I'm curious about what Eibach means when they claim that the alignment can be *adjuated* to factory specs when it's pretty widely known that the car doesn't have any camber adjustment from the factory.

Saying that the alignment 'happens to fall within OEM tolerances' with the springs installed would have been clearer than saying tha it cam be adjusted.

Unless they're referring to toe only.

Gotcha. Well looks like I'll only need a rear camber adjustment after getting a drop. A 1-1.4 inch drop should put me around -1.25 up front hopefully. WAY too much camber in the back though.

[zooki]

So I got my springs on yesterday. Took it in for an alignment, and the rear camber is out of spec, but only on the passenger side. -1.5 on the drivers side rear, but -2.1 on the passenger's side. Wondering if it will change with a 200 lb. driver in the car? If not, how much will it hurt to drive until I can get some adjustment for the rear?

[empower-auto]

Originally Posted by zooki

When can we expect these, and how much?

Considering it will be upper arms .. it will be $$$.

Battle Version will have some stuff out for this car soon I bet.