Updated: Toyota GT86 - facts from Japan (Handmade and only 1000 units/yr - DEBUNKED)

[Dave-ROR]

FYI Leeky is NOT a journalist. He's a tourist that won a trip from Toyota and is passing along what they told him. Everyone who is attacking him are the ones looking like idiots.

[Want.FR-S]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

FYI Leeky is NOT a journalist. He's a tourist that won a trip from Toyota and is passing along what they told him. Everyone who is attacking him are the ones looking like idiots.

Well said, Dave. Leeky is not a journalist so we should not put the same standard onto him about double-checking his source before publishing.

Having said that, I was in awe to see TTAC uses this thread and publish it as a news on their website. Although this is not the first time that this forum has generated some *news*, but I was just smiling about this. Since when journalists care about what we said on the forum?

What is fair to said right now is that the spokeman of TMC said there is no production limit, and Mr. Tada did not, or may not, reveal the production target of this car in Tokyo Motor Show. That does not mean that Toyota do not want to sell GT 86 or Scion FR-S to us. Yes, with the right pricing, we can get it freely, but we might need to wait a bit because of production issue. IMHO that is the idea that Mr. Tada san is trying to convey. He just needs to be careful not to overdone the expectation and not meeting that.

[Dark]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

FYI Leeky is NOT a journalist. He's a tourist that won a trip from Toyota and is passing along what they told him. Everyone who is attacking him are the ones looking like idiots.

Chill out everyone. We will have more information this evening.

[DA1]

I wish they told us sooner ,last night i went through the garbage bins of the Australian CEO of Toyota. I figured i needed some dirt on him so I could go to the top of the list. (Sorry about the mess, SLEEP WELL TONIGHT!)

[Hachiroku]

Originally Posted by Want.FR-S

What is fair to said right now is that the spokeman of TMC said there is no production limit, and Mr. Tada did not, or may not, reveal the production target of this car in Tokyo Motor Show.

Exactly. And I doubt anything will be announced officially in a few hours at the reveals regarding any production limit (whether there is or isn't one).

[Hachiroku]

OK. Enough with the discussions on journalism and anything personal.

Discuss and speculate on the info passed along, or move along to the next thread.

[Want.FR-S]

Here is an idea to see if people would think about this: what if Toyoda could not meet the initial demand of this car and people have to wait for a period of time to fulfill their orders. Would you be willing to wait for it?

[Spaceywilly]

Originally Posted by spin9k

So the car is really Daihatsu made!?

The article was just saying that Subaru converted its minicar plant in Gunma to produce the 86, and in exchange Daihatsu, owned by Toyota, now produces a minicar for Subaru. It wouldn't make sense for Subaru to give up their 80,000 car a year minicar business for 3000 cars a year.

I don't think the journalist was trying to slam Leeky or this forum, just trying to set the record straight.

[ryude]

Originally Posted by Want.FR-S

Here is an idea to see if people would think about this: what if Toyoda could not meet the initial demand of this car and people have to wait for a period of time to fulfill their orders. Would you be willing to wait for it?

They had lots of people who pre-ordered the Fiesta and a disaster caused them to be delayed 6 months, yet they were still happy to wait.

[Kostamojen]

Originally Posted by Want.FR-S

TMC said there is no production limit.

I just wanted to make sure everyone sees this...

[tripjammer]

Originally Posted by balance

While I appreciate Leeky's efforts in delivering us with the most updated information from the source itself, he is also at fault for failing to exercise his common sense and titling this thread using the capitalized "FACTS". The notion of 1000 handmade units simply makes no sense whatsoever from any kind of business perspectives. If anything, the extent of radical reaction people have shown here to this bogus information only shows how much we already love this new car. It's all good!

Leeky still got immortalized by the internet. Plus he is still the lucky one being there...he just got caught up in the moment...

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/201...e/#more-420599

[Want.FR-S]

Originally Posted by Hachiroku

Exactly. And I doubt anything will be announced officially in a few hours at the reveals regarding any production limit (whether there is or isn't one).

Originally Posted by Want.FR-S

What is fair to said right now is that the spokesman of TMC said there is no production limit, and Mr. Tada did not, or may not, reveal the production target of this car in Tokyo Motor Show....

According to TTAC, not from TMC directly in any press release. Take it as how you interpret it.

I just want to clarify it.

[PuGZoR]

I think TTAC got it wrong regarding the models. I don't know where I read it exactly but I'm sure it was an official Toyota site... But the cars we're seeing are PRODUCTION prototypes and not pre-production prototypes. Difference is that the former is made using the same dyes and processes for everything as production models, while pre-production prototypes are usually full of 3D printed bits and hand assembled. The production versions should be identical to the cars we've been seeing.

[70NYD]

i dunno if this got sorted already or not, but wrt 1000/year.. perhaps it was 1000 that they made already THIS year for different tuners/tests/shows etc.
fuck, im having a hard time following this. there is SO many posts, i just cant sift through it all. if i am posting something that has been said, i apologize