follow ft86club on our blog, twitter or facebook.
FT86CLUB
Ft86Club
Delicious Tuning
Register Garage Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Go Back   Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB > Technical Topics > Engine, Exhaust, Transmission

Engine, Exhaust, Transmission Discuss the FR-S | 86 | BRZ engine, exhaust and drivetrain.


User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 07-11-2018, 08:36 AM   #43
celek
Resident Gear Head
 
celek's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Drives: 2013 BRZ
Location: Ohio
Posts: 734
Thanks: 264
Thanked 914 Times in 339 Posts
Mentioned: 41 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr. BRZ View Post
I aint gonna pay $600, yeah nope! But I'll pay $200! Now thats a good deal.
The Tilton component alone is $300
__________________
celek is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to celek For This Useful Post:
Hyper4mance2k (08-26-2018), soundman98 (08-08-2021)
Old 07-11-2018, 11:23 AM   #44
tehShirt
Senior Member
 
tehShirt's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2017
Drives: 2014 Subaru Forester
Location: Upstate SC
Posts: 441
Thanks: 501
Thanked 338 Times in 178 Posts
Mentioned: 20 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
How does this affect the clutch pedal travel? Can the pedal position be adjusted the same as on the stock setup?
tehShirt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2018, 12:42 PM   #45
fika84
Senior Member
 
fika84's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Drives: BRZ
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 845
Thanks: 677
Thanked 396 Times in 264 Posts
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr. BRZ View Post
I aint gonna pay $600, yeah nope! But I'll pay $200! Now thats a good deal.
Could probably have China make you one for $200 that will fail over and over again.. then the $600 price point might not seem half bad.

I think $600 is a great deal considering the pain that bent forks and jacked up TOB's cause.
fika84 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to fika84 For This Useful Post:
celek (07-11-2018), Jonsey (07-23-2018), KoreanJesus (04-01-2019), soundman98 (08-08-2021), Ultramaroon (07-11-2018)
Old 07-11-2018, 12:42 PM   #46
celek
Resident Gear Head
 
celek's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Drives: 2013 BRZ
Location: Ohio
Posts: 734
Thanks: 264
Thanked 914 Times in 339 Posts
Mentioned: 41 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by tehShirt View Post
How does this affect the clutch pedal travel? Can the pedal position be adjusted the same as on the stock setup?
Nothing was touched in the stock pedal besides removing the helper spring. Everything can still be adjusted if need be.
__________________
celek is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to celek For This Useful Post:
tehShirt (07-11-2018)
Old 07-11-2018, 03:36 PM   #47
celek
Resident Gear Head
 
celek's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Drives: 2013 BRZ
Location: Ohio
Posts: 734
Thanks: 264
Thanked 914 Times in 339 Posts
Mentioned: 41 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by fika84 View Post
Could probably have China make you one for $200 that will fail over and over again.. then the $600 price point might not seem half bad.

I think $600 is a great deal considering the pain that bent forks and jacked up TOB's cause.

Or depending on the damage
buy a new snout for $86
The New EO TOB for $55
New Fork for $26
Change trans fluid for $40
new Exedy Clutch assembly $200
Spend 2-3 hours of time pulling the trans every time it fails.

Worst failure I have seen to date was a bad TOB jammed and the fork broke the pivot ball out of the Trans case housing. Requiring a new transmission Bell housing case. $420
__________________
celek is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to celek For This Useful Post:
fika84 (07-12-2018), Joesurf79 (07-11-2018)
Old 07-12-2018, 07:35 AM   #48
Joesurf79
Senior Member
 
Joesurf79's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Drives: 2016 White Pearl BRZ Premium
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 548
Thanks: 204
Thanked 251 Times in 147 Posts
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by celek View Post
Or depending on the damage
buy a new snout for $86
The New EO TOB for $55
New Fork for $26
Change trans fluid for $40
new Exedy Clutch assembly $200
Spend 2-3 hours of time pulling the trans every time it fails.

Worst failure I have seen to date was a bad TOB jammed and the fork broke the pivot ball out of the Trans case housing. Requiring a new transmission Bell housing case. $420

I just went through clutch replacement due to a failed TOB on track, and I can vouch for all of the above needing replacement - the input shaft snout, the fork, clutch assembly.


What I cant agree with is 2-3 hours for pulling and re-installing the trans. For me with no lift, on maxed out jackstands, and a makeshift floorjack converted to trans lift status - it was 8 to 10 hours haha! Full weekend job in 95+ degree 80%+ humidity Houston hellacious summer misery.


$600 to never do it again for a TOB failure? I cant throw the money at the solution fast enough...
Joesurf79 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to Joesurf79 For This Useful Post:
ermax (07-12-2018), fika84 (07-12-2018), gravitylover (07-25-2018), KoreanJesus (04-01-2019), Pointmutation (08-02-2018), Turbo (07-12-2018)
Old 07-12-2018, 10:59 AM   #49
fika84
Senior Member
 
fika84's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Drives: BRZ
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 845
Thanks: 677
Thanked 396 Times in 264 Posts
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by celek View Post
Or depending on the damage
buy a new snout for $86
The New EO TOB for $55
New Fork for $26
Change trans fluid for $40
new Exedy Clutch assembly $200
Spend 2-3 hours of time pulling the trans every time it fails.

Worst failure I have seen to date was a bad TOB jammed and the fork broke the pivot ball out of the Trans case housing. Requiring a new transmission Bell housing case. $420
Son of a biznitch.. looks like I need to do this upgrade.. there are many more track days in my future and I don't want this happening!!
fika84 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2018, 11:12 AM   #50
Joesurf79
Senior Member
 
Joesurf79's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Drives: 2016 White Pearl BRZ Premium
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 548
Thanks: 204
Thanked 251 Times in 147 Posts
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by fika84 View Post
Son of a biznitch.. looks like I need to do this upgrade.. there are many more track days in my future and I don't want this happening!!
The crappy part was - after 25K miles on the car, 8K+ of which were track laps, there was still 1/2 a usable clutch wear plate left. The TOB death, when bad enough - kills the input shaft protective snout AND the pressure plate fingers. So in theory - you loose a bunch of clutch life that you should have had because the pressure plate get gacked, while the wear plate is happy as a clam.


Super frustrating PITA.
Joesurf79 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2018, 12:41 PM   #51
cfordart
Senior Member
 
cfordart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Drives: 2014 FR-S
Location: Memphis
Posts: 183
Thanks: 16
Thanked 91 Times in 49 Posts
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Just replaced my TOB (along with pristine clutch components) for $1100 at 60K miles. How much longer will the bearing part of yours last compared with a stock TOB?
cfordart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2018, 01:12 PM   #52
fika84
Senior Member
 
fika84's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Drives: BRZ
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 845
Thanks: 677
Thanked 396 Times in 264 Posts
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joesurf79 View Post
The crappy part was - after 25K miles on the car, 8K+ of which were track laps, there was still 1/2 a usable clutch wear plate left. The TOB death, when bad enough - kills the input shaft protective snout AND the pressure plate fingers. So in theory - you loose a bunch of clutch life that you should have had because the pressure plate get gacked, while the wear plate is happy as a clam.


Super frustrating PITA.
Are you boosted?
fika84 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2018, 01:17 PM   #53
celek
Resident Gear Head
 
celek's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Drives: 2013 BRZ
Location: Ohio
Posts: 734
Thanks: 264
Thanked 914 Times in 339 Posts
Mentioned: 41 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joesurf79 View Post
I just went through clutch replacement due to a failed TOB on track, and I can vouch for all of the above needing replacement - the input shaft snout, the fork, clutch assembly.


What I cant agree with is 2-3 hours for pulling and re-installing the trans. For me with no lift, on maxed out jackstands, and a makeshift floorjack converted to trans lift status - it was 8 to 10 hours haha! Full weekend job in 95+ degree 80%+ humidity Houston hellacious summer misery.


$600 to never do it again for a TOB failure? I cant throw the money at the solution fast enough...
A lift and a transmission jack definitely helps. Just slide the trans back and drop it about 4 inches. replace everything raise it and slide it back forward.
__________________
celek is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2018, 01:18 PM   #54
celek
Resident Gear Head
 
celek's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Drives: 2013 BRZ
Location: Ohio
Posts: 734
Thanks: 264
Thanked 914 Times in 339 Posts
Mentioned: 41 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by cfordart View Post
Just replaced my TOB (along with pristine clutch components) for $1100 at 60K miles. How much longer will the bearing part of yours last compared with a stock TOB?
This is what we are testing right now is bearing life. beating it up.
__________________
celek is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to celek For This Useful Post:
Drakiv (08-18-2018)
Old 07-12-2018, 01:44 PM   #55
Joesurf79
Senior Member
 
Joesurf79's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Drives: 2016 White Pearl BRZ Premium
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 548
Thanks: 204
Thanked 251 Times in 147 Posts
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by fika84 View Post
Are you boosted?
Nope. Bone stock motor wise. Headers and a ectutek tune that went in at the same time as the new clutch (500 miles ago), were the first power related modifications.
Joesurf79 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Joesurf79 For This Useful Post:
fika84 (07-12-2018)
Old 07-12-2018, 05:09 PM   #56
fika84
Senior Member
 
fika84's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Drives: BRZ
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 845
Thanks: 677
Thanked 396 Times in 264 Posts
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joesurf79 View Post
Nope. Bone stock motor wise. Headers and a ectutek tune that went in at the same time as the new clutch (500 miles ago), were the first power related modifications.
Damnit.
fika84 is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply

Tags
failure, hydraulic conversion, throw out bearing, tob


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
TOM'S 2013 JDM Converted for USDM DOT/SAE Approved LED Tail Lights in RED Lense willfong Exterior Parts (Aero, Lighting, Etc.) 0 01-22-2017 04:31 PM
Push Button Install (for BRZ Limited/10 Series/Converted FR-S or BRZ Premium) brz_star21 DIY (Do-It-Yourself) Guides 10 12-21-2016 02:41 PM
Buddy Club Race Spec Coilover Problems on Problems on Problems mpross Suspension | Chassis | Brakes -- Sponsored by 949 Racing 48 09-04-2016 11:18 PM
Hydraulic Handbrake ChrisD Suspension | Chassis | Brakes -- Sponsored by 949 Racing 10 01-20-2015 10:17 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:51 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.