Engine swap or not what would be the best amount of hp for the 86?

[chaoskaze]

There is never enough horse power?

For good experienced driver they know how much they want, if you aren't then the amount you need is depended on the size of your junk or how much you need to beat locals @ traffic light/drag strip.


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[02.ACCORD.DUDE]

I've got a question for those who have done moderate upgrades... At what point do you actually notice the HP upgrade during non-track use?

Is it +10 HP?, +15HP, +50HP?

(Just curious...)

[ZionsWrath]

Originally Posted by 02.ACCORD.DUDE

I've got a question for those who have done moderate upgrades... At what point do you actually notice the HP upgrade during non-track use?

Is it +10 HP?, +15HP, +50HP?

(Just curious...)

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When I added tires I noticed I could take a corner I was doing at 55 previously now 60. This is just casual street driving on a exit ramp.

Add in camber, track tires, etc. You can gain a lot of improvement.

Small anecdote, was tracking with another member and we we running basically identical. I had camber bolts (alignment), wheels/tires, and AP sprint kit. He had header/tune and tires. Which is the better car? better driver? who had more fun? Impossible to say.

There are a million paths you can take. And that is what makes this car great. All of those options and someone makes a part for all of them.

OP, just make the most informed decision you can based on what you feel and want. Numbers on paper are never going to come close to being able to describe any vehicle you own.

[86_PWR]

If u want HP, u bought the wrong car. Period.

[DVNARC]

Originally Posted by 86_PWR

If u want HP, u bought the wrong car. Period.

Of course but you can still add power. And Funny you said that with your name being 86 power lol

[Packofcrows]

215WHP would be enough for the twins for DD. 250WHP would be enough for 'fast n furious.'

Over 300whp is not really IMO something the twins need. Only way I see over 275whp is with a bigger engine. There's no replacement for displacement.

Concerning torque 250 torque would be perfect for this weight. Similar to STI, but a tad less.

[FRSBRZGT86FAN]

Originally Posted by DVNARC

Of course but you can still add power. And Funny you said that with your name being 86 power lol

Let me guess you're... let's say.... under the age of 22?

The questions you've repeatedly asked have that sort of caliber of immaturity other people our age don't behave like this and you kinda make everyone hate our generation of gearheads. You haven't even told us what mods you currently have or what the end all goal of the car is, from what I see you've got buddy club tail lights, win jet headlights, JDM sidemarkers, and and an aftermarket hood. You've done enough research to know they look relatively good on your car, why can't you do more research without such an ambiguous thread?

What kind of track experience do you have? If you want better times focus on a driver mod and wheels tires and brakes first but with input from an instructor.....

[Koa]

Originally Posted by Packofcrows

215WHP would be enough for the twins for DD. 250WHP would be enough for 'fast n furious.'

Over 300whp is not really IMO something the twins need. Only way I see over 275whp is with a bigger engine. There's no replacement for displacement.

Concerning torque 250 torque would be perfect for this weight. Similar to STI, but a tad less.

Only way you see (I'm assuming you mean reliable) power over 275whp is with a bigger engine?

you sure bout that?

I'm with you in your angle, though. These aren't the strongest little things even with the better design over the EJs

[Bobblehead]

I think if the car could make 250, even 220 horsepower to the wheel, in addition to a flatter, healthier torque curve (~180lb/ft? Sure let's go with that.) it would be significantly more fun, and sell better.

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[billwot]

Originally Posted by Packofcrows

215WHP would be enough for the twins for DD. 250WHP would be enough for 'fast n furious.'

Over 300whp is not really IMO something the twins need. Only way I see over 275whp is with a bigger engine. There's no replacement for displacement.

Concerning torque 250 torque would be perfect for this weight. Similar to STI, but a tad less.

FI is the replacement for displacement! Consider the 2.2l N/A MR2 vs the 2l turbo MR2...120 HP vs 200 HP (and much more available with just an inexpensive aftermarket boost controller)

[Scir16v]

I had a 350z before this car. 100 hp more, but also about 500lbs more. the ft-s is faster in some regards. all out straight-line speed, no. But the ft-s is much faster in twisty's than the z. I haven't upgraded tires yet, but it doesn't matter. More usable power range.

The z had a lot of power everywhere, but I had to be more careful with the throttle. I couldn't use all the power the z had. Was too much. Great for swinging the back end out, but not great for traction.

The twins don't need any extra power. Just better tires and driver.

[Summerwolf]

Originally Posted by Scir16v

I had a 350z before this car. 100 hp more, but also about 500lbs more. the ft-s is faster in some regards. all out straight-line speed, no. But the ft-s is much faster in twisty's than the z. I haven't upgraded tires yet, but it doesn't matter. More usable power range.

The z had a lot of power everywhere, but I had to be more careful with the throttle. I couldn't use all the power the z had. Was too much. Great for swinging the back end out, but not great for traction.

The twins don't need any extra power. Just better tires and driver.

That's the first time I have ever read that the 350Z had "too much power."

[Cedars]

Originally Posted by Scir16v

I had a 350z before this car. 100 hp more, but also about 500lbs more. the ft-s is faster in some regards. all out straight-line speed, no. But the ft-s is much faster in twisty's than the z. I haven't upgraded tires yet, but it doesn't matter. More usable power range.

The z had a lot of power everywhere, but I had to be more careful with the throttle. I couldn't use all the power the z had. Was too much. Great for swinging the back end out, but not great for traction.

The twins don't need any extra power. Just better tires and driver.

I agree with "the twins dont need any extra power" my method on getting the best performance from your car isnt tunes and upgrades its maintenance, I keep it in the best mechanical shape possible and always always make sure the tires have enough air and are not worn out. Tires are so critical not only to a fast car but to any car, this is the first time ive bought a car brand new that wasnt used, but previously any used car I bought went straight to the mechanic and 4 new tires no matter what the previous owner told me. Once you can keep a car close to perfect mechanically you can have faith that it will do what it was designed to do. I dont believe in modding the gt86, its like arguing with the subaru and toyota engineers on the quality of their work and the reason why they decided 200 hp was enough. Its messing around with the hp and torque that will get you into trouble, their experience told them that this weight and engine along with all its components are ideal and I respect their opinion, messing around with its dynamics and engine can give you all sorts of problems and really make your life hell. You have a toyota/ subaru and those two are considerd the leading car manufacturers with the track record to prove it. I would trust their opinion any day over mechanics who want to make a quick buck.

Moral of the story is they have done all the trial and error already, so you either trust their expertise or go buy a v8 if its about the power.

This baby is razor sharp, flies like a butterfly, trust me on this, ive driven many many fast cars and slow cars and shit cars, this car takes my breath away with what it can do and the pure driving experience it gives you. I have never seen anything like it. So dont go messing with a work of art. Its like trying to improve on the mona lisa or a picasso.

Phew im out of breath.

[fumanchu1]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Well Dvn, you got the responses you did because the question has no answer. There are 1,000 things that you can do to the car. Some add power, some don't, some make it better, some don't. There is no magic number no matter what your buddies or Facebook may tell you. There are a lot of guys that come on here that have never even driven the car that start throwing around HP numbers that they want and the car "needs to have". For some strange reason 300hp seems to come up a lot. When pressed very few can answer the question "why 300?" other than that is what they want. The few that do answer the question almost always start their response with "well my buddy that has a WRX/Mustang/Camaro says...".
So, leave the numbers game to bench racers and paper power crowd, hit the track and learn to drive it well as it is. Then when somebody says "underpowered" just look them in the eye and say "prove it at the track". Those guys that have all that power but can't drive worth shit will be left in your dust.

300+hp so you can wipeout and hit/jump curb like I did of course