Weird AFR and fuel trims P1170 P0171

[Tonypepatone]

Recently been having an issue with my fuel trims. They will usually be okay cruising but under load or on off throttle they will climb gradually up to the point I threw a P1170 P0171 with a gas smell in car. Also noticed when on off throttle while driving my AFR well briefly jump around from 13-15. It's almost like it's always hunting for the right ratio. Please help this is driving me nuts.

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[ActionMaxon]

Any recent work done? I'd look jnto airflow meter or a/f sensor first. If your scanner can see those PIDs, check against specifications. Make sure all intake piping is secure, no vac lines disconnected.

[Tonypepatone]

Originally Posted by ActionMaxon

Any recent work done? I'd look jnto airflow meter or a/f sensor first. If your scanner can see those PIDs, check against specifications. Make sure all intake piping is secure, no vac lines disconnected.

No recent work done I flashed back to the stock tune on my OFT about a week ago which didn't help. I checked all the lines and everything seems okay. the only real thing it might be is I guess the sensors, how do I check if those are okay?

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[BirdTRD]

Any other mods, like a header? I would start looking for vacuum leaks and/or exhaust leaks particularly in the exhaust manifold area. I had p0171's due to a vacuum leak, the ECU interpreted it as being too lean and kept dumping more fuel in causing the raw fuel smell.

[Tonypepatone]

Originally Posted by BirdTRD

Any other mods, like a header? I would start looking for vacuum leaks and/or exhaust leaks particularly in the exhaust manifold area. I had p0171's due to a vacuum leak, the ECU interpreted it as being too lean and kept dumping more fuel in causing the raw fuel smell.

Just a cat back and the Perrin inlet tube with stock air box, which I have been running in conjunction with OFT tune for 50k+ miles with no issues. I'll check again tomorrow afternoon its such an odd thing that's happening. It seems too run fine under steady throttle then start to dump full when I'm off then back on throttle, which is when I see it hunt for AFR and fuel trims start to rise. Car has 98k miles now. Haven't swapped o2 sensors yet.

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[ActionMaxon]

Most of the reference specs that I have access to involve the use of an oscilloscope. If you have one, I can get you some useful info. Otherwise, you'll have to search out info.

I also looked up the P0171 for a 2013, and it indicated that a thorough inspection of your intake plumbing is warranted. Wherever the intake tubing has those bendy bits you'll want to look to make sure there are no breaks. If the intake tubing is cracking, you could get intermittent unmetered air going into your engine. (Like in the case of on/off throttle where the engine is torqueing/moving slightly) If this is happening, you may get those erratic fuel trim readings, as well as a lean code.

Go over those hoses really well with a bright flashlight looking for cracks/tears wherever it flexes.

[Tonypepatone]

Okay so I'm pretty sure it's one of my injectors left side. The thing is absolutely filthy and don't think it's running properly.

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[ActionMaxon]

Make sure the injector connector lock tab isn't broken. I've seen that before. Also happens on coils. Be careful removing. Replacement connectors are cheap if you find one broken.

Keep us posted

Edit: (If lock tab was broke you'd probably have misfires too, which you didn't mention so that's less likely.

[MCTeeJ]

You might be onto something with the injector, but you may wanna smoke test the intake connections first just to be 100% sure. If you're smelling fuel in the car that's the ecu trying to compensate for not getting enough fuel, therefore dumping a ton of it from the working injectors.

Remember, if you plan to replace then you should replace all 4. One brand new plus three with 98k miles doesn't make any sense.

[Tonypepatone]

Alright so got the injector on the way found a used one from a wrecked car here, also ordered spark plugs cause why not, they need to be replaced anyway. I did buy new clips and o rings, just in case should arrive this weekend and I'm gonna try to put them on next week after I get them tested just to make sure they are all running right. Thanks for the help guys, this should solve the issues but I'll let you all know how it goes good or bad.

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[Tonypepatone]

So got the spark plugs changed 6 hours later...I was exhausted didn't change anything, new injector didn't help so dropped it off at a reputable Subaru mechanic today he said it was bad bank 1 sensor which is I believe the afr sensor which comes in Monday. Hopefully this is it, I'll keep y'all updated next week.

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[Tonypepatone]

Oh and he also mentioned it could be something blocking the cat. Has anyone had one go bad yet?

Figured if it is it's a good excuse to get a new header

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[Icecreamtruk]

Originally Posted by Tonypepatone

Oh and he also mentioned it could be something blocking the cat. Has anyone had one go bad yet?

Figured if it is it's a good excuse to get a new header

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There was a buddy of mine who had tons of issues with his car, fuel and air related most of the time. After months of debugging, it turned out to be a clogged cat. He was running catless header but the front-pipe cat just destroyed itself and blocked most of the way. Very much worth a shot for you to inspect that, front-pipe isnt hard or long to remove.

[Tonypepatone]

Also worth mentioning when I changed the spark plugs their was some oil inside and on the little electrical connectors for the coil packs. None on the spark plugs or inside the ignition coil itself. Should I give those a good cleaning with electrical cleaner?

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