2022 Toyota 86 (Click-bait articles)

[userjack6880]

Yup, what I feared. They will ruin another car, like they did with the first gen and second gen tC. Then again, I didn't have high hopes when it was rumored that it would be based on the TNGA platform.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Yup, that's what I said as well. I wish, Toyota make 1 last limited edition w PP goodies. I might trade my car and get that. Don't wanna be same as Tcoat w Hakone 86 lol

It's OK you can have one too.







If you want an AT I understand that there are scads of them available in Canada. The MT is very very rare.

[tehShirt]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

As for new 86, I can't say much yet... but few things I can say.
- All engineers from Toyota who worked on 86 stayed. Not 100% on Subaru side.
- They're looking into same direction for new 86/BRZ.
- Expect to small price bump along w no weight bump as well.

You had some typos in your post.

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by tehShirt

You had some typos in your post.

Haha I wish

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Haha I wish

But motorcar.com said that automotive news said that rickscarstuff said that autoblog said that motoring.au said that japancars said that auto insider said that it would be a cheaper 300hp hatchback with a new 2Jz boxer engine and come pre rocket bunnied! You saying they are wrong?

[Sasquachulator]

So instead of an econobox class back to basics make-the-driver-a-better-driver sports car in the 86, we're likely looking at something more akin to a
larger, comfier, more powerful, more expensive Mustang/Camaro type sports car with great capabilities?

or maybe rather a 4 seater supra with Subaru/Toyota parts bin parts instead of BMW bits?

OR maybe dumbed down to a Corolla or Camry coupe?

Thats going to be disappointing in all cases.

[userjack6880]

Originally Posted by Sasquachulator

maybe dumbed down to a Corolla or Camry coupe?

I feel like it'll be more of a "Sportier" RWD Corolla Coupe with a boxer motor. Which it essentially would be. I mean, right now, it's basically a RWD Imprezza Coupe.

[NoHaveMSG]

Originally Posted by userjack6880

I feel like it'll be more of a "Sportier" RWD Corolla Coupe with a boxer motor. Which it essentially would be. I mean, right now, it's basically a RWD Imprezza Coupe.

Don't forget hybrid

[Yoshoobaroo]

Originally Posted by userjack6880

I feel like it'll be more of a "Sportier" RWD Corolla Coupe with a boxer motor. Which it essentially would be. I mean, right now, it's basically a RWD Imprezza Coupe.

A *lighter* RWD corolla coupe sounds wonderful. I’m afraid it’ll be that plus 250lbs though.

*EDIT* well Corollas weigh up to 3150 lbs so I guess you were right.

[bcj]

Originally Posted by ZDan

Jeezis, does *everything* have to suck?

Hope All Y'all had a Fat Taco Tuesday

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Sasquachulator

So instead of an econobox class back to basics make-the-driver-a-better-driver sports car in the 86, we're likely looking at something more akin to a
larger, comfier, more powerful, more expensive Mustang/Camaro type sports car with great capabilities?

or maybe rather a 4 seater supra with Subaru/Toyota parts bin parts instead of BMW bits?

OR maybe dumbed down to a Corolla or Camry coupe?

Thats going to be disappointing in all cases.

You forgot hybrid.

[ZDan]

Mild hybrid option wouldn't bother me...

And honestly a rwd 5door Corolla hatch would be cool as hell! Why can't we have both that and a lighter 2-door coupe? AND a shorter-wheelbase still-lighter-weight 2-seat sports car version too!

[soundman98]

yea, an foST rwd competitor would be interesting to me. but i'm still happy with what i got

[OldSkoolToys]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

As for new 86, I can't say much yet... but few things I can say.
- All engineers from Toyota who worked on 86 left. Not 100% on Subaru side.
- They're looking into different direction for new 86/BRZ.
- Expect to big price bump along w big weight bump as well.

"Big price and big weight"....


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"1) Bringing together both companies' strengths to jointly develop all-wheel-drive models that offer the ultimate sensation in all-wheel driving
2) Joint development of the next-generation Toyota 86 and Subaru BRZ"


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"
Chief engineer Tetsuya Tada let slip to Australia's Motor recently that he believes the new 86 will be "better than the Supra," although we're not sure exactly what he means by that." - Car & Driver


My guess is something akin to the old Celica All-Trac, utilizing the Subaru global platform and drivetrain. As of a matter of fact, I bet Toyota couldn't wait to shit all over another one of their old nameplates by letting it be basically a badge engineered car.


Hey Ichi, if thats true, at least it'll be like a return of the 2 door GC8's....ish. I imagine it keeping to a two door body is about the only thing it'll have in common with the 1st gen.