Perrin or Berk catted front pipe - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

JDKane527 · 03-23-2013, 04:18 PM

Which would you choose and why?

Both are 2.5" diameter stainless steel with 200 cell cat.

Only difference is the price.

I'm planning on getting Perrin Resonated CBE with it.

vtmike · 03-23-2013, 07:26 PM

The perrin is 304ss, not sure about the berk though. I think berk uses tig welds which are nicer than the perrin welds. With the price difference I think I'd be leaning towards the berk.

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JDKane527 · 03-26-2013, 02:13 PM

I picked up the Berk catted front pipe. Sounds mean on start up and adds a nice growl with the stock cat back.

D1cker · 03-26-2013, 02:28 PM

I think the Berk pipe is the much better value.

Areddi · 03-26-2013, 02:38 PM

Can anyone clarify on going catless and the rumor of people losing torque? I would prefer to remove that cat if I can.

shu5892001 · 03-26-2013, 02:51 PM

I hear a lot of people say you won't gain much going from high-flow cat to catless

FastLane1000 · 03-26-2013, 03:03 PM

Why not Motiv? I went with their overpipe and HFC front pipe. I know I didn't lose anything. I installed them both together but it was a noticeable improvement.

JDKane527 · 03-26-2013, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Areddi

Can anyone clarify on going catless and the rumor of people losing torque? I would prefer to remove that cat if I can.

Not sure if there is much power difference between high flow cat and catless. I want to retain a cat in the front pipe if I remove the primary cat in the header.

Quote:

Originally Posted by FastLane1000

Why not Motiv? I went with their overpipe and HFC front pipe. I know I didn't lose anything. I installed them both together but it was a noticeable improvement.

The Motiv exhaust is a nice piece, but can't justify dropping that much money for overpipe and front pipe. With the money saved, I'd rather have it go towards fluids, brakes, and tires. Haven't heard the Motiv exhaust, but I'd be willing to bet money that between the Berk, Perrin, Motiv, Nameless, or Works catted front pipe paired with the same catback, the exhaust tone would sound the same or very similar.

FastLane1000 · 03-26-2013, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDKane527

Not sure if there is much power difference between high flow cat and catless. I want to retain a cat in the front pipe if I remove the primary cat in the header.

The Motiv exhaust is a nice piece, but can't justify dropping that much money for overpipe and front pipe. With the money saved, I'd rather have it go towards fluids, brakes, and tires. Haven't heard the Motiv exhaust, but I'd be willing to bet money that between the Berk, Perrin, Motiv, Nameless, or Works catted front pipe paired with the same catback, the exhaust tone would sound the same or very similar.

Hmm. I must have gotten a deal then. Even with a ceramic coated overpipe i think my pricing was less than Perrin's. You might check the classifieds if you haven't already. If your buying the Perrin catback I'd just keep it all the same brand.

JDKane527 · 03-26-2013, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by FastLane1000

Hmm. I must have gotten a deal then. Even with a ceramic coated overpipe i think my pricing was less than Perrin's. You might check the classifieds if you haven't already. If your buying the Perrin catback I'd just keep it all the same brand.

I'm waiting for the Berk Cat Back to be released.

vtmike · 03-26-2013, 03:51 PM

The Berk stuff seems to be a good deal. I got the nameless downpipe because I was already ordering the axleback and got a discount on the downpipe and free shipping. The Berk downpipe was probably still cheaper than what I paid.

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hunter3232792 · 03-26-2013, 04:05 PM

invidia im a fan of the products

Fizz · 09-19-2013, 02:36 AM

Does anyone know what brand of cats are used for the Berk front pipe?

I know that their catted pipes for the S2k use Magnaflow......but I can't find anywhere if the same is used for their FR-S catted pipes?

Corner3garage · 09-19-2013, 12:20 PM

Berk is much higher quality. They use magnaflow cats as well which are good.

The Berk front pipe is very nicely tig welded!

Not sure what Perrin uses.

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vtmike Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Scion FR-S Location: Virginia Posts: 477 Thanks: 80 Thanked 134 Times in 103 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	The perrin is 304ss, not sure about the berk though. I think berk uses tig welds which are nicer than the perrin welds. With the price difference I think I'd be leaning towards the berk. Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD

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shu5892001 Ontario's FT86 Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 2016 Lexus GS-F Location: Toronto Posts: 684 Thanks: 261 Thanked 165 Times in 111 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I hear a lot of people say you won't gain much going from high-flow cat to catless

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vtmike Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Scion FR-S Location: Virginia Posts: 477 Thanks: 80 Thanked 134 Times in 103 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	The Berk stuff seems to be a good deal. I got the nameless downpipe because I was already ordering the axleback and got a discount on the downpipe and free shipping. The Berk downpipe was probably still cheaper than what I paid. Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

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Fizz Senior Addict Join Date: Jan 2013 Drives: 86 GT Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 1,217 Thanks: 249 Thanked 336 Times in 215 Posts Mentioned: 12 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Does anyone know what brand of cats are used for the Berk front pipe? I know that their catted pipes for the S2k use Magnaflow......but I can't find anywhere if the same is used for their FR-S catted pipes?

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