A real live negative review!

[racerkyo]

Originally Posted by TheJuggernaut

1 for 3 ain't bad I guess

lol. i guess opinions are different. i feel like they did very well to make the 3 criteria happen.

the fun part has yet to be determined by the consumers, but most reviews point to yes.

avg mpg of ~25 is good compared to ~20 for evo, sti, s2000, rx8

affordable? ehh but compared to ~$35k for evo and sti. i think $30k for rx8. and s2000 isn't made anymore

just my thought

[Dimman]

Beer is supposed to make noise?

[Sport-Tech]

Originally Posted by Dimman

Beer is supposed to make noise?

Probably a bad translation - my guess is they mean something like "has no kick".

[TheJuggernaut]

Originally Posted by racerkyo

lol. i guess opinions are different. i feel like they did very well to make the 3 criteria happen.

the fun part has yet to be determined by the consumers, but most reviews point to yes.

avg mpg of ~25 is good compared to ~20 for evo, sti, s2000, rx8

affordable? ehh but compared to ~$35k for evo and sti. i think $30k for rx8. and s2000 isn't made anymore

just my thought

I'm mostly kidding but the economy is pretty pathetic for a 2L in a light car. I can average 20 in my 4800 lb 4.7L SUV if I'm careful. And while it's not very expensive per se, it's certainly no cheapie. When you market something as "affordable", to me it implies that it will be cheaper than the competition. But all it ended up being is competitively priced. It's still a 2L 4 banger compact/subcompact. There's no reason why it couldn't start at a similar price to a Corolla (and a fully loaded one of those is under 20k).

I'm still getting one but after all the hype, the end result is actually quite ordinary. It's a good car but it's not any kind of price/performance revolution like we were being led to believe. It just ended up being Subaru Miata Coupe - cool, slow but fun and overpriced.

[86'd]

Here's my favorite quotes:

Bwhaha, have fun carving it up in your Passat, "Even then, the GT is no acceleration miracle. 7.6 seconds from 0 to 100 kph - this creates a VW Passat."

Bustin' der rhymes, "...just a philistine still no athlete."

I couldn't have said it better myself, "...a decent car on the wheels."

Honestly I love negative reviews just to balance out all of the positive reviews going on, and to get more objectivity, but it has to be from someone who knows what they're talking about; who isn't spoiled by Porsche, BMW and autobahns.

[Draco-REX]

Well, this will become the SOLE review done on this car as far as the haters are concerned. It will be cited ad nauseum as how horrifically bad the car is and how we're all fanboys who know nothing about cars.

[DantKR]

Originally Posted by racerkyo

lol. i guess opinions are different. i feel like they did very well to make the 3 criteria happen.

the fun part has yet to be determined by the consumers, but most reviews point to yes.

avg mpg of ~25 is good compared to ~20 for evo, sti, s2000, rx8

affordable? ehh but compared to ~$35k for evo and sti. i think $30k for rx8. and s2000 isn't made anymore

just my thought

So... 5 mpg less than 300hp sti D; lol.

[armythug]

The thing about this car is that it was kinda meant to be like a painters blank canvas. Basically they wanted to give us an affordable lightweight RWD platform. An EXCELLENT platform to start with. Then once we buy the car, it's totally up to us to make the car what we want it to be. Do or do not add more power. It's the buyer's call. It's your picture to paint. This is how they should have approached their critique of this vehicle imo.

[blackmist27]

i know we are all kinda joking here... but i have been starting to think negatively about the BRZ as well.. i mean, when i see 0-60 times in the 7 second range i get worried. i mean, sure it corners well... but hey, what wouldn't when its going that slow?
i guess i am having second thoughts on this. anyone else feel the same?

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by blackmist27

i know we are all kinda joking here... but i have been starting to think negatively about the BRZ as well.. i mean, when i see 0-60 times in the 7 second range i get worried. i mean, sure it corners well... but hey, what wouldn't when its going that slow?
i guess i am having second thoughts on this. anyone else feel the same?

I've been looking around at other options but only in case Subaru prices the car stupidly... or if I want to buy a car that won't depreciate as much.

[DantKR]

Still have to test drive. But in the numbers sense it's really not starting to add up.

[Mr.Jay]

Originally Posted by blackmist27

i know we are all kinda joking here... but i have been starting to think negatively about the BRZ as well.. i mean, when i see 0-60 times in the 7 second range i get worried. i mean, sure it corners well... but hey, what wouldn't when its going that slow?
i guess i am having second thoughts on this. anyone else feel the same?

I think you have to take that 7.2 0-60 with a gain of salt considering MT did 6.4 while IL did the 7.2 thats a huge difference so the car is capable of a much faster 0-60 given a more abusive lanuch (I mean if you care about 0-60 you should be giving it anyways)

Another important thing to factor in is tyre choice. I mean low resistance tyres regardless if they are optional JDM Pirus ones aren't really the best choice for fast numbers

I think given a good lanuch with better tires should get you in the low-mid 6 no problem

[86'd]

Originally Posted by blackmist27

i know we are all kinda joking here... but i have been starting to think negatively about the BRZ as well.. i mean, when i see 0-60 times in the 7 second range i get worried. i mean, sure it corners well... but hey, what wouldn't when its going that slow?
i guess i am having second thoughts on this. anyone else feel the same?

Not really.

My Civic SI ('02) gets 0-60 in 7.5 (more like high 7's) and my old Civic SI ('00) was low 7's, and there's no way that a car with 40 more HP and RWD and same weight would be just as slow.

[Spaceywilly]

Originally Posted by blackmist27

i know we are all kinda joking here... but i have been starting to think negatively about the BRZ as well.. i mean, when i see 0-60 times in the 7 second range i get worried. i mean, sure it corners well... but hey, what wouldn't when its going that slow?
i guess i am having second thoughts on this. anyone else feel the same?

Maybe you missed the 69.1mph slalom and .92g on the skidpad... better than a Mustang GT (67.3 mph slalom, 0.91g skid pad) and Genesis Coupe(67.4 mph slalom, 0.89g skid pad). In other words, it may be going slower in a straight line but it will actually be going faster through the turns.