Frs vs s2000

[FRSfan111]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Thunder roadster?

I did an outlap in on before, and will never get into another one again.

IIRC, acab had an oil cooler.

That's disappointing, hoping to hear what actually went wrong. @aCab can u pm me what actually happened? I run my car in HPDE but I'm worried about braking it.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by FRSfan111

That's disappointing, hoping to hear what actually went wrong. @aCab can u pm me what actually happened? I run my car in HPDE but I'm worried about braking it.

I'm of the belief that stock oil temps are not an issue. I could be wrong of course, but I've seen zero correlation between oil coolers and failures.

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Thunder roadster?

I did an outlap in on before, and will never get into another one again.

IIRC, acab had an oil cooler.

I can't recall if Austin did or not. Hell I didn't know his car had issues, the last time I've seen it was at Mid Ohio.

I have yet to have any signs of the DI failure. Lucky I guess based on others experiences I've run a cooler for most of it's track life but I wouldn't say that made any difference.. no evidence either way.

It was a factor in deciding to build my Integra for track use, but not as much of a factor as wanting to have at least a rollbar, buckets, harness, etc

[FRSfan111]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

I'm of the belief that stock oil temps are not an issue. I could be wrong of course, but I've seen zero correlation between oil coolers and failures.

I know the D4s was failing hard. But what else seems to be the problem? Besides the stock tranny not handling much more power.

Even though pro cars like ken gushis FRS get torn down and rebuilt between events, I'd like to know what all they do to make the cars handle such abuse. If only such things were commercially available with out selling my first born arms and legs lol.

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by FRSfan111

I know the D4s was failing hard. But what else seems to be the problem? Besides the stock tranny not handling much more power.

Even though pro cars like ken gushis FRS get torn down and rebuilt between events, I'd like to know what all they do to make the cars handle such abuse. If only such things were commercially available with out selling my first born arms and legs lol.

A race car only needs to last the race. If it breaks on the way to the trailer no one cares.. also are any of those cars even using the FA20? I don't keep up so I'm not sure...

[Captain Insano]

To all saying how horrible the brz/frs reliability is on the track, why do you keep tracking them? Not being an ass it is an honest question. If I felt thst strongly about how unreliable my car was on the track and tracking my car was important to me... why not cut my losses and get an s2000 or some other track car. Why keep the brz/frs?

[CSG David]

Originally Posted by Captain Insano

To all saying how horrible the brz/frs reliability is on the track, why do you keep tracking them? Not being an ass it is an honest question. If I felt thst strongly about how unreliable my car was on the track and tracking my car was important to me... why not cut my losses and get an s2000 or some other track car. Why keep the brz/frs?

It is an unknown territory that we are all stepping foot on. Without testing, development stagnates and we'll never know what the maximum potential of the car will be. While we subject ourselves to some criticism for tracking the car, we're also pointing out the weaknesses as well. As a community, we become much more informed about our cars and find ways to mitigate or possibly eliminate potential failures. We also point out a ton of BS, rumors, gossip, or simply untrue statements in the community. Data is evidence and information is empowering.

[FRSfan111]

WTB k20 Honda engine with k24 tq using an s2k redline, throw it in my FRS and maintain low CoG and hopefully improve weight dist. Come on @CSG Mike, make it happen!

[CSG David]

Originally Posted by FRSfan111

WTB k20 Honda engine with k24 tq using an s2k redline, throw it in my FRS and maintain low CoG and hopefully improve weight dist. Come on @CSG Mike, make it happen!

Uh...we actually had a specific build in mind if this engine kept giving us crap, but not going to say anything...

[FRSfan111]

Originally Posted by CSG David

Uh...we actually had a specific build in mind if this engine kept giving us crap, but not going to say anything...

Lol. Wait hot damn, there's 2 of you. All this time I thought only mike was CSG.

If it comes to that please make a kit. I don't want to drop this platform.

[CSG David]

Originally Posted by FRSfan111

Lol. Wait hot damn, there's 2 of you. All this time I thought only mike was CSG.

If it comes to that please make a kit. I don't want to drop this platform.

Mike drives. I lurk (j/k).

We haven't given up on this platform. In fact, we're pushing forward to show how potent this platform is by adding parts one at a time and showing the value of each setup. Having your support allows us to continue to test relentlessly.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by FRSfan111

Lol. Wait hot damn, there's 2 of you. All this time I thought only mike was CSG.

If it comes to that please make a kit. I don't want to drop this platform.

I'm just the guy that drives and give the no-bs feedback without caring if I hurt people's feeling with the truth. Some people like it, some people don't. I just say it how it is.

[FRSfan111]

Originally Posted by CSG David

Mike drives. I lurk (j/k).

We haven't given up on this platform. In fact, we're pushing forward to show how potent this platform is by adding parts one at a time and showing the value of each setup. Having your support allows us to continue to test relentlessly.

Ha, I'm saving up for your AP front BBK so I can push my braking zones at the track!

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by FRSfan111

Ha, I'm saving up for your AP front BBK so I can push my braking zones at the track!

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