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Old 08-10-2012, 11:16 AM   #15
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In 2042 you'll be able to import as many 86s as you want, I doubt resale will be an issue 30yrs from now...
I didn't realize the wait was so long. I had read some Aussie car websites years ago and it just seemed as if relatively recent Japanese gray market machines were easily available.

Is the waiting period a recent change, or were the cars I read about just entirely illegal? Or is it something like we have in the US, where you can only import it if that vehicle wasn't sold in the US (there are still other requirements to bring it in).

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I didn't realize the wait was so long. I had read some Aussie car websites years ago and it just seemed as if relatively recent Japanese gray market machines were easily available.

Is the waiting period a recent change, or were the cars I read about just entirely illegal? Or is it something like we have in the US, where you can only import it if that vehicle wasn't sold in the US (there are still other requirements to bring it in).

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Off the top of my head it's something like this

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Pre 1989 can be imported assuming it meets Aussie standards for that year (easy) + various costs that add up $$

2,

If you live overseas for 12 months and can prove you owned and drove the car during that time you are free to bring it back into the country with you

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If it's a car that the manufacturer never had full import licence you are free to import it, not that easy as the car must be complied to be road legal which costs $$

For example you can import Ferrari 360s from 1999-2004 including CS but once landed in aus it must be complied to be able to be road registered and that costs anywhere from $17k to $30k not sure what's current.

So no chance for imported 86s
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That seems pretty similar to the rules in the US as well.

On a positive note, your resale values won't be diluted by imports.

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Old 08-10-2012, 11:26 AM   #18
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I didn't realize the wait was so long. I had read some Aussie car websites years ago and it just seemed as if relatively recent Japanese gray market machines were easily available.

Is the waiting period a recent change, or were the cars I read about just entirely illegal? Or is it something like we have in the US, where you can only import it if that vehicle wasn't sold in the US (there are still other requirements to bring it in).

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yea its like the US in that respect the cars cannot be a grey import if the manufacturer specifies it is coming to AUS within a certain amount of time after the unveiling of the car thats how nissan screwed themselves the left the nnouncement to late that the were going to bring in the GTR so the importing companies jumped straight onto that loophole and were able to bring them in, also we dont get as many cars as you guys do over there to be a direct competitor to cars sold locally here so thats a reason the grey imports list may be better than yours.

and yes even after the cars are allowed to be privately imported they have to go through a thourogh compliance before they are allowed to be registered for road use
@Bounce summed it up so much better
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I was wondering how they got the GTRs in, funny how more than half of the Ferrari 360s up for sale are all UK imports they've flooded the market and killed it! Sub 100k next year? Yes please!
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I was just plying with some numbers, and I was wondering: what do you reckon the resale value of a GTS will be in 3 or 5 yrs?
The correct answer is no one knows.
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In 2042 you'll be able to import as many 86s as you want, I doubt resale will be an issue 30yrs from now...
It used to be 15 years to import a car
Has it changed now to fkn 30!?!?!?
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It used to be 15 years to import a car
Has it changed now to fkn 30!?!?!?
This is what I found,

Only pre1989 build cars and cars on the list below can be imported into Australia, unless you have owned and driven the vehicle overseas for 12 months.

(Note that the old '15 year rule' finished in 2005).


Not sure where I had the 30yr rule from so pre 1989 is 23yrs old at least.
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Yeah but the pre 89 has been like that since at Least 04 when I got in to looking at imports (I think)
Hmm im gonna have to find some time to freshen up on the import rules, it's been quite a while
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you will never be able to import 86s as they made in so no car after 1989 can be imported if its already been sold here EXCEPT for low volume imports (ie. Ferrari 360s) and private imports

its like this... just say i have a local 86

would i be happy if the govt. allowed people to import JDM 86s the same year as mine further depressing prices?

I'm not saying i agree with this but thats the rationale of the govt. and the local car dealers
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Old 08-12-2012, 04:01 AM   #25
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Off the top of my head it's something like this

1,

Pre 1989 can be imported assuming it meets Aussie standards for that year (easy) + various costs that add up $$

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If you live overseas for 12 months and can prove you owned and drove the car during that time you are free to bring it back into the country with you

3,

If it's a car that the manufacturer never had full import licence you are free to import it, not that easy as the car must be complied to be road legal which costs $$

For example you can import Ferrari 360s from 1999-2004 including CS but once landed in aus it must be complied to be able to be road registered and that costs anywhere from $17k to $30k not sure what's current.

So no chance for imported 86s
yeah, sounds about right, no chance for standard 86's. If toyota japan bring out a trd 86 with turbo/SC and it is not a production model sold in australia then yes it can be imported, but getting it complied/import costs is the problem. $$$

Was going to import a st162 GT4 celica as they were never sold in australia. Decided not to. Big mistake, i regretted for years. That changed after I placed my order for the 86.
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back on topic... I think resale value should be pretty good.

I bought a 1 year old Aurion with 45,000kms for $20k ... brand new $36k ?

Sports cars tend to hold their value alot more. Especially if waiting lists are as long as 2 years for the GTS !
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Old 08-12-2012, 04:13 AM   #27
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I dont see the price dropping at all for the next couple of years. And I highly doubt the market will get saturated enough in 5 years to drastically reduce the value of the car.
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30 years is right. On the 31st year, 1990 cars are eligible to import.
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