Engine idle chirping (cricket) noise poll. - Page 145 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Enraged21 · 06-13-2013, 08:55 AM

3000 miles and I just got them

df.dima · 06-13-2013, 10:27 AM

Mine now chirps even with Shell E0 91. I don't recall it doing so last year. Just 8.5k kms on the car. More so after a good drive. Hot weather + longer drive and I hear them.

kludger · 06-13-2013, 07:34 PM

Hit 3000 mi and the birds have now landed... Will wait for a confirmed fix before taking it in, I can put up with it for now.

BadMoon · 06-13-2013, 08:05 PM

I'm taking mine in tomorrow. Not sure if they will fix or just diagnose?

whtchocla7e · 06-13-2013, 08:13 PM

Crickets only after car is warmed up. It can't be the fuel.

Smokinbuffalo · 06-14-2013, 12:20 AM

I have 120 miles with green dot HPFP and haven't any crickets yet.

BadMoon · 06-14-2013, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smokinbuffalo

I have 120 miles with green dot HPFP and haven't any crickets yet.

I dropped mine off this morning. I'm hoping for this result.

vgi · 06-14-2013, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smokinbuffalo

I have 120 miles with green dot HPFP and haven't any crickets yet.

fingers crossed this is it. but i would wait until you have at least a 1k

end of july - i'll be at the dealer with mine, hope to hear form you an update that all is ok

maben417 · 06-14-2013, 10:37 AM

Just out of curiosity... I took my FRS to the dealer to have them inspect itfor chirping noise, and a noise in the rear that sounds like a click. Theycould not duplicate the noise in the back, and they told me there was no fixfor the chirping noise related to the fuel pump. After I got the disappoint answer,I decided to call the headquarters and open a repair order. The headquartersthen got back with the dealer and now, the dealer wants me to bring the car forthem to remove the fuel pump, just to get the part number. Has anybody gone throughthe same process? It's a little odd to me; I would think the headquarters wouldhave information about the part numbers a 2012 FRS is made of. My FRS is 20Know.

BadMoon · 06-14-2013, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maben417

Just out of curiosity... I took my FRS to the dealer to have them inspect itfor chirping noise, and a noise in the rear that sounds like a click. Theycould not duplicate the noise in the back, and they told me there was no fixfor the chirping noise related to the fuel pump. After I got the disappoint answer,I decided to call the headquarters and open a repair order. The headquartersthen got back with the dealer and now, the dealer wants me to bring the car forthem to remove the fuel pump, just to get the part number. Has anybody gone throughthe same process? It's a little odd to me; I would think the headquarters wouldhave information about the part numbers a 2012 FRS is made of. My FRS is 20Know.

I don't understand why a dealer would be so fickle? Toyota is aware of the issue. I would expect a dealer to know of a problem as wide spread as this.

:UPDATE:
They just called. They said they are ordering a fuel pump and that next Thursday is the date to get her replaced. They were very nice about it. Find another dealership to work with if they are treating you that way.

FR-S Matt · 06-14-2013, 03:38 PM

For as much as I want to order this "green dot" fuel pump and have it replaced, I just don't think this is going to do it. Be sure to post your results after 400-500 miles and beyond and also post ambient temps so we can get an idea. I noticed my crickets weren't so lively till temps warmed up.

Carwhisperer · 06-14-2013, 06:27 PM

Still on the stock HPFP I got back in July. I've noticed my crickets are louder than usual when I give it a free rev, now that's its been 90+F outside.

NIKOLA · 06-14-2013, 07:09 PM

Well, the noisy crickets were just bugging me so I took my car to my local Scion dealer for them to have the official look. I dropped in on them with out an appointment, but they'll squeeze my car in. The service guy who wrote everything up thus far totally heard the crickets. I passed on the Service Bulletins (Scion & Suburu) to him that I printed up as well. He looked it up on the system and sure enough there it was listed. However, by the time the mechanic can have a look at my car the noisy crickets might go to sleep. They better wait the 10 minutes or more for the DI system to heat up so that the pump starts its symphony of cricket noise so that the mechanic can hear them. In any case, they'll have to order the parts and let me know when they'll be in. Then I can set up an appointment for the replacement. I'd be pissed if the mechanic says that he heard nothing out of the ordinary and can't validate a warranty repair.

On a side note; since the problem with the high pressure fuel pump clearly is heat related I feel, being a mechanical engineer, that Toyota/Suburu need to move that pump an inch or more off the engine block and get a heat shield between it and the engine. That way the pump won't heat up anywhere near as much to the point that the noisy crickets come back. That's my opinion as to a REAL fix.

strat61caster · 06-14-2013, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NIKOLA

On a side note; since the problem with the high pressure fuel pump clearly is heat related I feel, being a mechanical engineer, that Toyota/Suburu need to move that pump an inch or more off the engine block and get a heat shield between it and the engine. That way the pump won't heat up anywhere near as much to the point that the noisy crickets come back. That's my opinion as to a REAL fix.

Why wait? Do it yourself. Piece of sheetmetal bent with pliers with some insulation bonded to it. Don't forget to leave the front open so the pump gets air flowing over it, it's going to be generating a noticeable amount of heat on it's own.

For the record, mine got quieter as the ambient temps got higher, it isn't clear (anecdotally) what the cause is.

View Poll Results: Do you have chirping (cricket) noise during idle once the car is warmed up?
Yes (Please only vote after you have 300 miles or more on the odometer)	3,100	85.21%
No (Please only vote after you have 300 miles or more on the odometer)	538	14.79%
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06-13-2013, 08:13 PM	#2021
whtchocla7e Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: 2013 FR-S Hot Lava Location: CT Posts: 424 Thanks: 30 Thanked 222 Times in 81 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Crickets only after car is warmed up. It can't be the fuel. __________________ Live to drive another day

06-14-2013, 07:09 PM	#2029
NIKOLA Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S in Ultramarine Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 80 Thanks: 28 Thanked 22 Times in 11 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Well, the noisy crickets were just bugging me so I took my car to my local Scion dealer for them to have the official look. I dropped in on them with out an appointment, but they'll squeeze my car in. The service guy who wrote everything up thus far totally heard the crickets. I passed on the Service Bulletins (Scion & Suburu) to him that I printed up as well. He looked it up on the system and sure enough there it was listed. However, by the time the mechanic can have a look at my car the noisy crickets might go to sleep. They better wait the 10 minutes or more for the DI system to heat up so that the pump starts its symphony of cricket noise so that the mechanic can hear them. In any case, they'll have to order the parts and let me know when they'll be in. Then I can set up an appointment for the replacement. I'd be pissed if the mechanic says that he heard nothing out of the ordinary and can't validate a warranty repair. On a side note; since the problem with the high pressure fuel pump clearly is heat related I feel, being a mechanical engineer, that Toyota/Suburu need to move that pump an inch or more off the engine block and get a heat shield between it and the engine. That way the pump won't heat up anywhere near as much to the point that the noisy crickets come back. That's my opinion as to a REAL fix. __________________ Currently driving a Sprintex Supercharged FR-S in Ultramarine with an Invidia N1 Catback with Catless Front Pipe, Invidia Over Pipe, Injen Catless 4:1 EL Headers, Perrin Aluminum Drive Pulley & Driveshaft Shop Aluminum Driveshaft. Also, looking to upgrade wheels someday to Enkei PF01's (17x8's).

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06-13-2013, 08:55 AM	#2017
Enraged21 #RememberTheBuster Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: Firestorm FRS MT Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 597 Thanks: 637 Thanked 154 Times in 102 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	3000 miles and I just got them

06-13-2013, 10:27 AM	#2018
df.dima Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: FR-S and Mazda 3 Sky Location: Kitchener, ON Posts: 341 Thanks: 10 Thanked 132 Times in 93 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Mine now chirps even with Shell E0 91. I don't recall it doing so last year. Just 8.5k kms on the car. More so after a good drive. Hot weather + longer drive and I hear them.

06-13-2013, 07:34 PM	#2019
kludger Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: '13 Boxter S, '13 BRZ(gone) Location: SE PA Posts: 235 Thanks: 309 Thanked 103 Times in 57 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Hit 3000 mi and the birds have now landed... Will wait for a confirmed fix before taking it in, I can put up with it for now.

06-13-2013, 08:05 PM	#2020
BadMoon Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Drives: 2014 GLI Autobahn/Nav Location: Central PA Posts: 551 Thanks: 118 Thanked 356 Times in 167 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm taking mine in tomorrow. Not sure if they will fix or just diagnose?

06-14-2013, 10:37 AM	#2025
maben417 Junior Member Join Date: May 2013 Drives: red scion frs Location: Arlington VA Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Just out of curiosity... I took my FRS to the dealer to have them inspect itfor chirping noise, and a noise in the rear that sounds like a click. Theycould not duplicate the noise in the back, and they told me there was no fixfor the chirping noise related to the fuel pump. After I got the disappoint answer,I decided to call the headquarters and open a repair order. The headquartersthen got back with the dealer and now, the dealer wants me to bring the car forthem to remove the fuel pump, just to get the part number. Has anybody gone throughthe same process? It's a little odd to me; I would think the headquarters wouldhave information about the part numbers a 2012 FRS is made of. My FRS is 20Know.

06-14-2013, 06:27 PM	#2028
Carwhisperer Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: A lot of supercars. Location: USA Posts: 495 Thanks: 237 Thanked 148 Times in 90 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Still on the stock HPFP I got back in July. I've noticed my crickets are louder than usual when I give it a free rev, now that's its been 90+F outside.

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