Hyundai Veloster N vs FT86 - Page 7 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

JesseG · 12-06-2019, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by strat61caster

50 years ago Honda was a company that made shitbox scooters. Gotta start somewhere and Hyundai is finally taking steps in the right direction, I'd absolutely test drive a VN vs a CTR.

I would cross shop the N with the CTR also, and the Golf R (which I’ve spent a lot of time in). I know almost without a doubt the N wouldn’t win that comparison for me.

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Dave-ROR · 12-06-2019, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by strat61caster

50 years ago Honda was a company that made shitbox scooters. Gotta start somewhere and Hyundai is finally taking steps in the right direction, I'd absolutely test drive a VN vs a CTR.

50 years ago Honda was actually making some really nice little cars.

I'd certainly test drive the VN but as much as I didn't really care for the CTR I'd be surprised if I'd take a VN over it.

All those 300ish HP cars are just too fast.. that's why I have a fleet of slow 86s.

And a slightly more than 300HP Camaro but whatever.

jflogerzi · 12-08-2019, 01:49 PM

The next gen GTI performance is rumored to have 300hp... Hatchback wars are a foot

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fatoni · 12-08-2019, 06:16 PM

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The next gen GTI performance is rumored to have 300hp... Hatchback wars are a foot

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not even sure it would be wars. if the gti ever put out the performance of its competition it would just be over.

strat61caster · 12-08-2019, 10:21 PM

https://www.audiusa.com/models/audi-tt-rs

jflogerzi · 12-08-2019, 10:22 PM

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https://www.audiusa.com/models/audi-tt-rs

LoL 67k MSRP... Let's stay on topic

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strat61caster · 12-09-2019, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by jflogerzi

LoL 67k MSRP... Let's stay on topic

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It's a VW hot economy car, speed costs money.

dtrop · 12-12-2020, 12:51 PM

I test drove a 2021 DCT N today. My next car will either be the N or 202x BRZ (upgrading from my 2014 limited)

The sales man insisted on going along for the ride, I wouldn't have abused it anyways, and I think he wanted me to floor it more than I did.

I was a bit underwhelmed...and that may have something to do with not flooring it, seeing its full capability and only being on the road for 15 minutes.

I didn't find the power to be a night and day difference and i find the driving ergonomics to be far better in the BRZ.

The tech in the N is far better, but that wouldn't be the biggest selling point for me.

I didn't hate the drive, but i wasn't in love....choosing between the 2022 BRZ and a 2022 N will be challenging, but right now i am leaning more towards another BRZ. Though....I don't love the exterior changes, I still prefer 2017+ aesthetics.

The wife lived the N though...mostly due to more interior space, less road feel and it's not as loud as my BRZ (JDL header and perrin CB)

Tokay444 · 12-13-2020, 11:15 AM

Lol. Molester.

jflogerzi · 12-13-2020, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by dtrop

I test drove a 2021 DCT N today. My next car will either be the N or 202x BRZ (upgrading from my 2014 limited)

The sales man insisted on going along for the ride, I wouldn't have abused it anyways, and I think he wanted me to floor it more than I did.

I was a bit underwhelmed...and that may have something to do with not flooring it, seeing its full capability and only being on the road for 15 minutes.

I didn't find the power to be a night and day difference and i find the driving ergonomics to be far better in the BRZ.

The tech in the N is far better, but that wouldn't be the biggest selling point for me.

I didn't hate the drive, but i wasn't in love....choosing between the 2022 BRZ and a 2022 N will be challenging, but right now i am leaning more towards another BRZ. Though....I don't love the exterior changes, I still prefer 2017+ aesthetics.

The wife lived the N though...mostly due to more interior space, less road feel and it's not as loud as my BRZ (JDL header and perrin CB)

I don't think the new N is a good value now. They forced a bunch of stuff that no one cares about. Imo the seats are okay and DCT is a good option... But at 35k it's just to much.

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dtrop · 12-13-2020, 01:10 PM

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I don't think the new N is a good value now. They forced a bunch of stuff that no one cares about. Imo the seats are okay and DCT is a good option... But at 35k it's just to much.

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Well the performance package is now standard, but they added I believe another 3k on top of that.

I agree that it is expensive, but it would be relative to what Subaru and Toyota price the next gen at.

jflogerzi · 12-13-2020, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by dtrop

Well the performance package is now standard, but they added I believe another 3k on top of that.

I agree that it is expensive, but it would be relative to what Subaru and Toyota price the next gen at.

The 6sp is still 32k. I really like this car. When I am ready to move on from current car if I stay with 1 car strategy it will be on the list.

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Ernest72 · 12-17-2020, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by dtrop

I test drove a 2021 DCT N today. My next car will either be the N or 202x BRZ (upgrading from my 2014 limited)

The sales man insisted on going along for the ride, I wouldn't have abused it anyways, and I think he wanted me to floor it more than I did.

I was a bit underwhelmed...and that may have something to do with not flooring it, seeing its full capability and only being on the road for 15 minutes.

I didn't find the power to be a night and day difference and i find the driving ergonomics to be far better in the BRZ.

The tech in the N is far better, but that wouldn't be the biggest selling point for me.

I didn't hate the drive, but i wasn't in love....choosing between the 2022 BRZ and a 2022 N will be challenging, but right now i am leaning more towards another BRZ. Though....I don't love the exterior changes, I still prefer 2017+ aesthetics.

The wife lived the N though...mostly due to more interior space, less road feel and it's not as loud as my BRZ (JDL header and perrin CB)

Just make your current BRZ better and save a ton of cash. Neither car is worth the money.

dtrop · 12-17-2020, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Ernest72

Just make your current BRZ better and save a ton of cash. Neither car is worth the money.

Since buying my BRZ in 2014, I have since bought a house. Car mods are no longer on my list.

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dtrop Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Wrb 2014 limited brZ Location: United States Posts: 435 Thanks: 5 Thanked 185 Times in 103 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I test drove a 2021 DCT N today. My next car will either be the N or 202x BRZ (upgrading from my 2014 limited) The sales man insisted on going along for the ride, I wouldn't have abused it anyways, and I think he wanted me to floor it more than I did. I was a bit underwhelmed...and that may have something to do with not flooring it, seeing its full capability and only being on the road for 15 minutes. I didn't find the power to be a night and day difference and i find the driving ergonomics to be far better in the BRZ. The tech in the N is far better, but that wouldn't be the biggest selling point for me. I didn't hate the drive, but i wasn't in love....choosing between the 2022 BRZ and a 2022 N will be challenging, but right now i am leaning more towards another BRZ. Though....I don't love the exterior changes, I still prefer 2017+ aesthetics. The wife lived the N though...mostly due to more interior space, less road feel and it's not as loud as my BRZ (JDL header and perrin CB) Last edited by dtrop; 12-12-2020 at 12:54 PM. Reason: add

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