09-08-2013, 11:30 AM | #113 |
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Cracks me up... people use all kinds of excuses as to why not to swap an LSx into xyz. CoG, angular momentum, too much power for the street... who cares? I used to be one of those that looked down on the LSx. But the fact is, it IS a great engine. In fact I am contemplating a swap into my e30 chassis. And really, do you think the average driver on this very forum can tell the difference between the CoG, etc etc on the track, much less the street?
I mean, if the car is so perfect, why are these same people buying cheap coilovers, swapping springs on to stock damper, getting sway bars, exhausts, intakes, etc. It's a hobby people... you like x, others like y. Stop the hate already. |
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09-08-2013, 02:21 PM | #114 |
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An LS swap would require a different transmission, rear end, suspension, exhaust and brakes at a minimum. Not worth it and obviously the car would be ruined. Build a low compression FA20 with lots of boost instead and leave the GM trash where it belongs.
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09-08-2013, 02:52 PM | #115 |
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Lol so much ignorance...
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I have had 2 people buy the LS3 engine and trans combo when they were on sale. So it looks like at least 2 more will be running them soon. Unless it was for a different car I didn't ask. I really like the idea of 430hp. It is however an expensive swap that will take a lot of hours to complete.
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I've talked to my mechanic who is an ls fan. The biggest unknown is the ecu. Getting a different motor to work with all the other oem systems is apparently bloody hard.
Getting the motor in and running isn't hard. Being a boxer engine bay, we've been blessed with ample room. I'm reintereeted in this now, as soon as I saw 60lbs. FI add 30lbs. |
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The beauty of modding is that we're all free to do whatever we want so long as the bank account doesn't disagree. If you happen to be a purist that's fine as it pertains to your car but there is no need to get the panties in a wad over other people's choices.
I do have to laugh about the " lazy pushrod powered" comment. I can think of many words to describe the LS7 that sits in my garage next to the FRS and "lazy" isn't one of them.
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The brakes on this car are just fine for 400hp turbod cars but you think they need to be changed for an ls motor? Exhaust will be custom and it will be cheap to make. All you need is two flowmaster mufflers and some straight pipe. A shop local to me does it for a few hundred bucks including the cost of the mufflers. SO not any more expensive than the 1500 ark grip "performance," exhaust Building a low compression fa20 and buying a turbo kit would cost somewhere in the neighborhood of 8-10k with labor and tuning new clutch etc which is about the same amount it would cost to buy a used LS motor, and tranny, drive shaft, wiring harness etc You obviously have nothing insightful to add to the thread so go jerk yourself off in the fa20 fanboi section of the forums. |
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You wouldn't HAVE TO use a difference box/shaft/diff. You could adapt the box to an LS easily enough.
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I believe the current LSX swaps DID use a T56 transmission instead, but I've seen plenty of these swaps in other chassis where someone makes a billet bellhousing adapter, etc and the stock trans is retained. A new FA20 engine costs what? $7K? LSX is cheap and reliable at vastly higher power levels, and I could have a HANDFUL for the same cost as replacing the factory 2.0. I know what I'll be doing in a few years, but to each their own. |
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Times they have changed my friends I have thought about an LS swap myself.....just because I can with the Hydra EMS. The problem is that even a front mounted turbo kit, front mount intercooler, and larger radiator hurt the car's balance in race form. It has more to do with the fact there isn't enough weight in the rear but I think for most street guys or track day people it's not going to bother them much. Thanks, Phil Grabow |
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