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"Driving around,I feel like this car is working harder than it probably needs to" That is what some people enjoy. Keeping the revs high while not breaking speed limits is fun. Being able to drive it like a commuter car and getting 30+ mpg when you need to is also nice. Not having to really worry about going speeds that will get you arrested unless you really mean to go that fast is nice. I totally understand the allure of more power. I had a Saab Viggen that had 260 or so hp. If you floored that car from a stop you went sideways because of the torque steer. It was very fun. I've owned or driven multiple other powerful cars, they were fun for what they were. |
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The vast majority of the first world nations (especially the USA and Europe) really REALLY frown on increasing emissions and reducing mileage from current or new model cars. There are scads of international laws against doing it. It isn't up to the car companies to randomly decide to throw more power at cars without considering all these laws. It is only going to get tighter and more restrictive over the next 5 years so everybody may as well learn to live with it.
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IMO the Twins found a niche in being a 4-seat coupe Miata competitor.
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I've always thought that right out of the box,it would be a better car with about 225hp to the wheels with tires wider than 210.I could even go for 200hp to the wheels. 350hp makes it a completely different car,and impossible to sell it at it's current price point. |
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This is why I think the FA24DIT is the perfect engine.
It is under 300hp stock. It is not that much more “stuff” than the FA20DIT, but it is a whole lot more motor for modding. It has already been proven to be way beefier built than the WRX’s FA20DIT and can offer some ridiculous reliable power on stock internals. I think it’s the perfect motor for the 86/BRZ. Yes, it will require a bit more beef in the traction dept which may add a little weight. I’d be perfectly fine with a 3,000lb FA24DIT powered low, RWD coupe. Talk about a blast. Stock power levels are reasonable and a simple catless Stg 2 COBB Protune would yield absolutely ridiculous HP and Torque numbers with a fat, ball-busting torque band starting WAY down low. In the Ascent, it makes all of its numbers on 87 octane - nothing more, so TONs of headroom. It’d be freakin heaven. I have an FA24DIT and it’s a jewel of an engine. This car needs it. Take 25% off the top for usable power in the current car. That’s what I get in Colorado @ 6,800ft. Then take x% for drivetrain loss. That doesn’t leave you much left from an already anemic torque band. BRZs don’t sell well up here because they are extremely underpowered. One of the best handling, most connected, funnest feeling cars to drive, but horribly slow, getting beat by most cars on the road up here. I don’t want that, but I want everything else that is the BRZ. Last edited by Broseph; 01-23-2020 at 07:30 AM. |
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