Do you drive an Exedy Stg. 2 Clutch? Come in and share your experience.

[Sportsguy83]

There are a number of Exedy Stg. 2 Clutch owners that are experiencing issues with their clutch behavior. Some even have reinstalled it thinking it was an issue with install, but clutch issues have come back.

Please share:
Miles on clutch
Break in per Exedy recommendations? Yes or No
Miles when issue started.
Describe issue.

Also share if you don't have any issues and how many miles on it.

Me:

Miles on Clutch 2k
Issue started at 1800 miles
Religiously followed Exedy break in procedure.
Randomly getting locked out of first gear and/or reverse when fully stopped.

I personally know 6 owners (from Orlando area and South FL) who have the clutch and have the same issue.

I don't know anyone who has the clutch but hasn't had the issue creep up at some point.

List:
@Sportsguy83
@marcoaferrer
@alpine
@midnight23
@mhiscott (Clutchmaster clutch, same issue)
Paul from Orlando
Dustin from Melbourne
Dustin from South FL (Twoo different Exedy 2 clutches same issue, starting to do it again after re-greasing the input shaft)
@jabbathewhat
@mkivsoopra
@qtwre
@FrX same issue Exedy Stg. 1
@jher
@Draco_PR23

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[The Racers Line]

Great I just installed this clutch. Haha. No issues yet, adjusted the pedal a bit because the engagement point was too low. It's a little chattery in 1st, but I expected that with the design. The clutch seems to grab really nicely however, so we will see how it goes.

The interesting thing is, I got my clutch from Chris at SBD a couple months ago when he imported a few from canada. My box and packaging was different then another exedy stage 2 clutch that a customer bought and I installed Friday. They looked physically the same minus a different pilot bearing, but I'm curious if there is something else different I couldn't see. The customer bought it from ft86speed factory, so I'm assuming it is the newer clutch shipment.

It will be interesting to see how it plays out now because we both are at around the same power level with the same turbo kit.

[midnight23]

Miles on clutch: 1500~
Break in per Exedy recommendations? Yes
Miles when issue started: a bit after break in? i can't remember really. I had the same issue with my previous clutch before I broke a tooth off of it.
Describe issue: same as @Sportsguy83

[Sportsguy83]

Originally Posted by Neal@EQtuning

It will be interesting to see how it plays out now because we both are at around the same power level with the same turbo kit.

A local owner installed one with the older box (gray) and there have been other three locals including me that got the latest box (purple?), But we all have the same issue

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[Shady195]

Dumb question but did you re-adjust your clutch pedal at all?

Don't mean to insult you'd just be surprised that something so small can be overlooked..

Not allowing you to smoothly engage reverse and first gear sounds a lot like the clutch not being fully disengaged.

[Sportsguy83]

Originally Posted by Shady195

Dumb question but did you re-adjust your clutch pedal at all?

Don't mean to insult you'd just be surprised that something so small can be overlooked..

Not allowing you to smoothly engage reverse and first gear sounds a lot like the clutch not being fully disengaged.

Yes, adjusted on install and after break in period.

Clutch did not do it for first 1800 miles. Just started doing it now.

The thing that jumps to me as a design issue, is that I personally know 6 people that have the same clutch installed and have the same issue at some point and have read of 2 or 3 in forum with the same issue.

[midnight23]

@ImperiousRex have this issue?

[Sportsguy83]

@qtwre

[mhiscott]

This same issue is happening with all the aftermarket clutches it seems. What clutches have you had? ACT, Exedy and Clutchmasters?

How was the ACT?

I'm going to point Clutchmasters towards these threads when I send mine in for RMA. The aftermarket guys have to be getting something wrong with the clutch design on these cars...

[Sportsguy83]

Originally Posted by mhiscott

This same issue is happening with all the aftermarket clutches it seems. What clutches have you had? ACT, Exedy and Clutchmasters?

How was the ACT?

I'm going to point Clutchmasters towards these threads when I send mine in for RMA. The aftermarket guys have to be getting something wrong with the clutch design on these cars...

I have had CM, Exedy TD and Exedy Stg. 2.

The CM FX300/400 did not do it. On some rare ocasions it might have gotten harder to get into gears, but never got locked out, or even close. It was just "a little bit" harder to go into gears. I drove that for about 3-5K miles.

The Twin disk did not do it, but only drove it through break in period.

Then Stg. 2. Saw my friends who drive the car more than me have the issue, then slowly saw mine approaching it until a week ago, it finally locked me out of reverse and first.....

So extremely annoying. I'm going to warranty this with Exedy and get a different brand. Still looking at options and haven't decided which one.

[Shady195]

Possible the pressure plate forks are being overextended and bending? Being over engaged causing them to fatigue? Maybe the pedal needs a littl emore scrutiny with its adjustment, or possibly a new slave cylinder with less travel?

[Sportsguy83]

Originally Posted by Shady195

Possible the pressure plate forks are being overextended and bending? Being over engaged causing them to fatigue? Maybe the pedal needs a littl emore scrutiny with its adjustment, or possibly a new slave cylinder with less travel?

I have a clutch stop and the pedal was adjusted carefully to be low, in order to prevent overextending the PP but not extremely low as to prevent PP engaging.

[marcoaferrer]

the problem doesnt have to do with the pedal its self. whats happening is drag. the friction disk isnt moving freely enough on the input shaft. it seems that the tolerances are so tight between the spline hub and input shaft that even when the splines are properly greased the friction disk still has trouble moving freely. once any amount of dust starts to collect on the shaft disengagement becomes difficult.

Lets get this straight from the very beginning so people don't suggest the same solutions over and over again.

THIS PROBLEM HAS NO RELATION TO CLUTCH PEDAL ADJUSTMENT

There has to be a problem with the actual manufactured product in order for there to be so many repeated cases of the same issue on the same product. There has been 10+ installs where mechanics (all of varying experience levels) have encountered the same issue. it has already been tested and proven that dropping the transmission and cleaning/regreasing the splines solves the problem but only for a limited time. after a while dust will begin to accumilate and the issues will return.

Our best bet is to put together a list of all the people that have had the issues and contact exedy over this for some kind of resolution. When one guy calls yeah theyll most likely brush off the case. But when they are given a list of people pissed off they are a little more inclined to dig deeper into the situation

[Sportsguy83]

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