Advice buying an fr-s with cash? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

k.houan · 12-07-2013, 09:50 PM

UPDATE: I've found a potential frs in the color i wanted from a fellow forum member. It has a Cusco front strut, 527 wheels 17x8.25 and 17x9.75, new rear wider tires, bc Coilovers, clear bra, Berk dual muffler delete. and 3200 miles on it. He's asking $24k. What do you guys think? Should I negotiate a deal with him? Thing is hes located in Minnesota and Im in Cali, how would a deal like this go down without anyone getting screwed over? And should I go this route rather than buying a brand new frs?I'd be grateful for any input.

Alright so I'm looking to making the jump and purchasing a fr-s. I'm looking for a whiteout 6MT with zero options. Preferably new or with less than 1k miles.

I have enough money to buy one straight up cash. I'd like to get one for as low a price as possible, any advice?

I'm located in clovis CA. Credit is not very good.

Will buying all cash help keep the price down?

Should I make a big down payment instead and pay off the rest in payments?

Any recommendations on a dealer?

Any help would be appreciated!

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utekineir · 12-07-2013, 09:56 PM

Steps.

1) drive to dealer

2) approach salesman in non threatening manner

3) let him know the sale will be

4) negotiate

5) sign papers

6) play today was a good day

k.houan · 12-07-2013, 10:03 PM

Haha. But i don't believe they have the exact car I want at my local dealer, would I be able to order one to my specs? How does this work? And any idea on out the door price with no options? I'm hoping to get one for 25k or less.

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Mo707 · 12-07-2013, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by k.houan

Haha. But i don't believe they have the exact car I want at my local dealer, would I be able to order one to my specs? How does this work? And any idea on out the door price with no options? I'm hoping to get one for 25k or less.

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Go in and tell them you have 25k and tell them what you want. To be honest with tax and everything i doubt you will be able to walk out paying sticker price but you never know.

ntron1 · 12-07-2013, 10:12 PM

Give them the smallest down payment they will allow. When your first payment is due, pay it off with one check. It will help your future credit rating and only cost a little extra for the interest on one month.

ThisGuy919 · 12-07-2013, 10:13 PM

Shop around and find the one you want that has all the features. Tell the sales rep you want to buy it (once you find the one you like) straight cash and want it for 25k out the door. They like cash they will make it happen.

chulooz · 12-07-2013, 10:13 PM

Why not invest the wad of money and just make payments? You could offer a huge downpayment to make them drop their price. ntron idea is good.

Whitigir · 12-07-2013, 10:17 PM

Please...

Do not tell them that you are paying CASH!

If you think paying CASH!! is gonna net you a better Deal ? You are WRONG!!!

They all hate CASH!! because they can not SCOOP any thing back from FINANCING if they deal with you.

Best to Deal, tell them you are FINANCING, after you got your deal....tell them that You are going to Pay CASH, now that you think about it. Now they have to stick to their words, even if they hate it

Captain Stall · 12-07-2013, 10:19 PM

Won't the Pure Pricing prevent a "cash discount" for a new car?

utekineir · 12-07-2013, 10:21 PM

I'd ask where the funds came from but we all know the premium a couple sr20's can pull a week before race wars.

whaap · 12-07-2013, 10:25 PM

The least amount of money a dealer can make on the sale of a car is to sell a car for 'cash'. If, instead, you walk in and suggest you might have enough for a down payment and would like them to arrange financing for you that's the chance of perhaps getting the best deal. They will get a kick-back from their bank which will be pure profit for them. That way they can afford to sell the car for less. It doesn't change the fact you still have to negotiate a good price. Wait until the day you take delivery and pay cash. You could always fib a little and say an uncle decided to finance you for zero interest.

R.S-HawK · 12-07-2013, 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ntron1

Give them the smallest down payment they will allow. When your first payment is due, pay it off with one check. It will help your future credit rating and only cost a little extra for the interest on one month.

Seconded.

BlueDubbinTDI · 12-07-2013, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by utekineir

I'd ask where the funds came from but we all know the premium a couple sr20's can pull a week before race wars.

I lol'd. RIP Paul Walker

Mikem53 · 12-07-2013, 11:35 PM

they dont care about your cash..
they would rather you get a loan from them cause they make money off of that as well..
cash works fine.. but its not really an advantage..

12-07-2013, 10:12 PM	#5
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utekineir blowhard Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: frs, project forester Location: ma Posts: 980 Thanks: 53 Thanked 604 Times in 316 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Steps. 1) drive to dealer 2) approach salesman in non threatening manner 3) let him know the sale will be 4) negotiate 5) sign papers 6) play today was a good day

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ThisGuy919 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Location: North Carolina Posts: 201 Thanks: 77 Thanked 24 Times in 19 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Shop around and find the one you want that has all the features. Tell the sales rep you want to buy it (once you find the one you like) straight cash and want it for 25k out the door. They like cash they will make it happen.

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chulooz Registered you sir Join Date: Feb 2010 Drives: 99 impreza coupe Location: DC / CT Posts: 1,666 Thanks: 259 Thanked 380 Times in 207 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Why not invest the wad of money and just make payments? You could offer a huge downpayment to make them drop their price. ntron idea is good.

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Whitigir Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 450 awhp twin turbo vr4 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,012 Thanks: 94 Thanked 273 Times in 177 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Please... Do not tell them that you are paying CASH! If you think paying CASH!! is gonna net you a better Deal ? You are WRONG!!! They all hate CASH!! because they can not SCOOP any thing back from FINANCING if they deal with you. Best to Deal, tell them you are FINANCING, after you got your deal....tell them that You are going to Pay CASH, now that you think about it. Now they have to stick to their words, even if they hate it

12-07-2013, 10:21 PM	#10
utekineir blowhard Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: frs, project forester Location: ma Posts: 980 Thanks: 53 Thanked 604 Times in 316 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'd ask where the funds came from but we all know the premium a couple sr20's can pull a week before race wars.

12-07-2013, 10:25 PM	#11
whaap Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Drives: '13 FR-S firestorm, 6 mt - '11 CR-V Location: Tucson Posts: 2,133 Thanks: 243 Thanked 1,387 Times in 657 Posts Mentioned: 36 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The least amount of money a dealer can make on the sale of a car is to sell a car for 'cash'. If, instead, you walk in and suggest you might have enough for a down payment and would like them to arrange financing for you that's the chance of perhaps getting the best deal. They will get a kick-back from their bank which will be pure profit for them. That way they can afford to sell the car for less. It doesn't change the fact you still have to negotiate a good price. Wait until the day you take delivery and pay cash. You could always fib a little and say an uncle decided to finance you for zero interest.

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Mikem53 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: FR-S 6MT Location: Somewhere in Space Posts: 1,565 Thanks: 500 Thanked 882 Times in 433 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	they dont care about your cash.. they would rather you get a loan from them cause they make money off of that as well.. cash works fine.. but its not really an advantage..

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