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Old 09-13-2019, 03:37 AM   #1
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*California* 2013 Valve Spring Recall

So just received my registration renewal in the mail today. Was looking around and read that ppl were able to register without going through with the recall.
NOT ANYMORE! With all these horror stories going around I don't want my engine to fail when I'm driving hours back to school soon. Which dealerships in the bay area are the ones to go to?
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Old 09-13-2019, 03:43 AM   #2
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Well, so far so good with Toyota One of Oakland.
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Old 09-13-2019, 03:20 PM   #3
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Good luck. FWIW I had to get my BRZ done before I could buy it. Just got my first post-recall Blackstone Labs oil analysis back. 102k miles (5.5k miles on the oil) and it looked good.

Only anomalies were : 24ppm Iron (from new parts wearin and a fairly punishing AutoX school), and 94ppm of silicone from the new gasket material wearing in and the assembly lube. Zero water or antifreeze, <0.5% fuel, TBN 3.7, 0.1% insolubles.

It's not a death knell, just a chance of being unlucky. And being unlucky often results in a new shortblock and rebuilt heads on Toyota/Subaru's dime so...
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Can u take a pix of your registration? Of course remove all sensitive info. I wanna see how it looks with the recall being enforced
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Old 09-13-2019, 03:54 PM   #5
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I'm not the OP but I'm in the same situation. I made an appointment at Stevens Creek Subaru and will cross fingers. At least it's been awhile now so they probably have things sorted out better than a few months ago.
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Ah. Just realized he has a Subaru. In my experience, the Subaru dealers are awful.
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Good luck. FWIW I had to get my BRZ done before I could buy it. Just got my first post-recall Blackstone Labs oil analysis back. 102k miles (5.5k miles on the oil) and it looked good.

Only anomalies were : 24ppm Iron (from new parts wearin and a fairly punishing AutoX school), and 94ppm of silicone from the new gasket material wearing in and the assembly lube. Zero water or antifreeze, <0.5% fuel, TBN 3.7, 0.1% insolubles.

It's not a death knell, just a chance of being unlucky. And being unlucky often results in a new shortblock and rebuilt heads on Toyota/Subaru's dime so...


Mind posting a picture of the report? I’d like to compare my post recall report in expecting.
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Mind posting a picture of the report? I’d like to compare my post recall report in expecting.
Of course! Good luck. It’s worth noting this oil change had: 4 500 mile highway trips for business, and a bunch of smaller 150 mile trips to visit home like once a month. That said, my commute is a punishing 5 miles each way, so lots of start-stops (although I make it a point to let the engine get to temp before shutting off), and there’s also a single autocross day in there: lvl1+lvl2 school, so 3 sets of 5 back to back runs, in the Virginia heat. Engine got real toasty. Most of the block was 210 or higher, some parts over 220, so it was a fairly varied and punishing oil cycle. Oil age was 6 months, standard Subaru synthetic blend.



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Good luck. FWIW I had to get my BRZ done before I could buy it. Just got my first post-recall Blackstone Labs oil analysis back. 102k miles (5.5k miles on the oil) and it looked good.

Only anomalies were : 24ppm Iron (from new parts wearin and a fairly punishing AutoX school), and 94ppm of silicone from the new gasket material wearing in and the assembly lube. Zero water or antifreeze, <0.5% fuel, TBN 3.7, 0.1% insolubles.

It's not a death knell, just a chance of being unlucky. And being unlucky often results in a new shortblock and rebuilt heads on Toyota/Subaru's dime so...


In Toyota's or Subaru's dime lol you obviously haven't read all the denials ....


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Ah. Just realized he has a Subaru. In my experience, the Subaru dealers are awful.
Um I guess you didn't get the memo toyota doesn't know how to work on the flat 4 and ignores simple instructions.

BASICALLY= Almost all the incidents with recall related failure are with Toyota's not b/c of the specific car but their failed attempt to do a simple valve replacement job, and the incompetence of their dealership mechanics.

Subaru dealers may suck but Toyota sucks a lot worse in my experience.


I would personally take it to Livermore if I had the chance to do it over or the time to go there.
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I went to Toyota Sunnyvale. They did cause an oil leak through the dipstick O ring but the the valve spring recall itself seems to be fine. My oil analysis looks OK.
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UBASICALLY= Almost all the incidents with recall related failure are with Toyota's

The ratio of Toyota failures to Subaru failures, is almost identical to the ratio of FR-S's built, to BRZ's built.
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Ah. Just realized he has a Subaru. In my experience, the Subaru dealers are awful.
Well the "skilled technicians" at the local toyota dealer attempted to repair my camry , so how about they try to work on subaru engines.
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The ratio of Toyota failures to Subaru failures, is almost identical to the ratio of FR-S's built, to BRZ's built.
Yes!
And the procedure for changing the springs and sealing the FA20 is radically different than any other Subaru engine. If anything the Subaru techs can screw it up easier since they are used to one way and probably don't even look at the instructions.
This whole "Toyota techs don't know how to work on boxer engines" is pure bullshit. It isn't like they have never been exposed to anything but Toyota engines in their whole career. A 10 year old with no experience could successfully do the work if they just follow the instructions. Not following them and messing engines up is not a Toyota issue it is an individual one.
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