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Subaru does not want to turbo the BRZ. It’s a very un-Subaru car and they don’t want it pulling people away from the WRX/STI. |
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@sunami88 I've heard of recycled prius batteries being re-purposed for solar / wind storage
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If I look at the full line-up on someplace like zeroto60times.com what I conclude in the the end Toyota just doesn't care about racing stats. It doesn't really sell any of their cars (including the Supra or the 86).
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I feel like this car doesn't need more horsepower, it just needs more torque to get going. Once it's going, it's going. (and pretty quick past 5th gear in 4K RPMs, for me, at least that's easily 60-70mph) but 1st through 3rd are rough... can boil a pot of water in the time it takes to get moving. The extra displacement will surely help give it a little kick off the line and maybe the hype for getting a turbo thrown into it will die down a bit.
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At best it may go 2.4L NA in 2-3 years, but hey it's a bump. Price will also increase, most likely
Tada : that guy is a enigma wrapped in a riddle …. of sorts . I get it , he doesn't want to give away the real deal 411 , but could at least give hints as to what is up next, what their focus is.
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as radroach said, i've heard rumblings of converting packs to home storage units, but haven't heard of anything mass produced, or any serious recycling motivations of late. i know there's a diy movement centered around repurposing tesla equipment, so much that the components are worth quite a lot on the secondary market stripped of the damaged car, but that's about it.
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I think the car needs excitement from it's engine. That's what it's lacking right now, especially when compared to a car like the s2000. A nicely tuned, howling v6 or a turbo 4 with a kick in the pants when it spools, even if both options yielded the same 0-60, would make this car that much more of a riot and would likely shut up all the auto journalists. The 718 Cayman for example, is way faster than the previous 981, but most people like the older engines better anyway because of the sound and feel. A n/a k20 or h22a4 in the frs would be more exciting, despite being just as powerful as the fa20. Not that the fa20 is bad. I actually like it more than the engine in the nd miata as far as character is concerned. A more exciting, and preferably still tuneable, engine is all this car really needs.
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This is an entry level sports car and nothing is going to change that. I wouldn't expect anything too dramatic in a “refresh” if anything at all.
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Tada-sensei is the best When I hear him talk I think “yeah the 86 doesn’t need more power, it needs more lightness!” And really that is always a great way to make a car feel more fun and alive. The Mazda MX5 usually edges out the 86 to 60mph, despite being 40 some horsepower less. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Fair enough, and the rumors of Subaru being baffled about Toyota wanting a NA engine could have been misinterpreted. In Subaru land, sports car = turbo. Not including the Impreza 2.5 RS I will be quite happy upgrading a few things on my car, adding a little induction and exhaust noise. And I will be smiling every time I get in it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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I don't see Tada , Toyota, or anyone from Subaru coming to the microphone speaking on behalf of this fact , but it's a very real important phenomenon. Where are all the hybrid Trucks / SUV's ? The technology is there, utilize it.
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