Updated: Toyota GT86 - facts from Japan (Handmade and only 1000 units/yr - DEBUNKED) - Page 11 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

MF_DEUCE · 11-27-2011, 07:16 PM

thanks for the updates Leeky!

...but ill just wait 2 more days for "The FACTS."

kvl · 11-27-2011, 07:24 PM

can you confirm about the wheel pattern if its 5 x 100 or 5 x 114?

Jah1mon · 11-27-2011, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Leeky

As i said, i am here as a guest of Toyota Japan with the head of advertising. These are the details that they have given me through all the questions i have been throwing at them. Hand made did indeed throw me for a second, so i asked again "Hand made!?"...."Yes, each one"

They did not elaborate on this. I would assume the chassis/body is done via robots and the rest of the car is put together by hand. Otherwise i cant see how it'll cost as little as they say it will.

They have also confirmed NO TURBO - EVER.

I even asked whether TRD will do a Turbo or Supercharger kit and the word is NO.

You can see the pictures as im uploading them here - http://s1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff515/LeekyInJapan

no turbo, ever? Never ever? I can't imagine a Sti car with no turbo. Thanks for the info leeky can't you enough for the pictured and info.

The car looks stunning in natural light.

Buggy51 · 11-27-2011, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jah1mon

no turbo, ever? Never ever? I can't imagine a Sti car with no turbo. Thanks for the info leeky can't you enough for the pictured and info.

The car looks stunning in natural light.

Wasn't the Legacy or Outback STI non-turbo'd?

Ryephile · 11-27-2011, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jah1mon

no turbo, ever? Never ever? I can't imagine a Sti car with no turbo.

This is fantastic news.

Bravo to Toyota to standing up to the turbo mongers and keeping this car pure.

Longhorn248 · 11-27-2011, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryephile

Thanks Leeky for the on-location information and pictures, looks like you're having a great time!

Regarding the 1,000 units a year; I can only fathom they mean Toyota-branded units for Japan. The "hand-built" part might also be a translation thing. That said, every production car today sees hand-built in some marketable facet, it just depends on the definition.

I think this is the key. Maybe there is a certain percentage of the car that is hand built as opposed to robots that gives it the "hand built" designation in Japan. If the whole thing is built by hand there's no way this gets anywhere near the $25k price point.

Zaku · 11-27-2011, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryephile

This is fantastic news.

Bravo to Toyota to standing up to the turbo mongers and keeping this car pure.

+1 on this statement

Buggy51 · 11-27-2011, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Longhorn248

I think this is the key. Maybe there is a certain percentage of the car that is hand built as opposed to robots that gives it the "hand built" designation in Japan. If the whole thing is built by hand there's no way this gets anywhere near the $25k price point.

>_> Hand stitched in Angola?

suprachica79 · 11-27-2011, 07:59 PM

I, too, forgot my manner before. Thank you Leeky for all of the first-hand info and for thinking of us back here on ft86club! We appreciate it beyond words!

NorCalRider · 11-27-2011, 08:06 PM

Thank you Leeky for the pics and info. I want my own personal LF-A track car too.

and I am loving the 86 as well.

ft86Fan · 11-27-2011, 08:12 PM

I own a Lotus so please please don't tell me this car will be hand built also.

Why would they say never ever a turbo or SC? Most sports cars nowadays are using smaller engines with turbo to get good fuel economy with the same performance. How can they be so sure that they won't have to go this route down the road?

Dark · 11-27-2011, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ft86Fan

I own a Lotus so please please don't tell me this car will be hand built also.

Why would they say never ever a turbo or SC? Most sports cars nowadays are using smaller engines with turbo to get good fuel economy with the same performance. How can they be so sure that they won't have to go this route down the road?

Maybe next generation or Subaru version? Toyota confirmed that their car will not have turbocharge, but Subaru only said "no plan for turbocharge".

spin9k · 11-27-2011, 08:18 PM

^Agreed about why say 'never'. No need for factory turbo monster, but a small turbo could help the low torque numbers tremendously, and provide a suitable base car for 3rd parties without ripping the engine and starting over due to it's high compression.

It's sounds 'pure' but is really problematic.

BTW Leeky ... you're the man... with so much excitment there, thanks for keeping us 'in the mix' with everyhting going on!

aliphian · 11-27-2011, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jah1mon

no turbo, ever? Never ever? I can't imagine a Sti car with no turbo. Thanks for the info leeky can't you enough for the pictured and info.

The car looks stunning in natural light.

Keep in mind, this info is from Toyota, not FHI/Subaru.

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