Camber plates

[G-Man]

I'm looking at camber plates what did you use and why? here are my current options and reasons.

general use is daily drive + autoX(about 1-2 times a month)
stock suspension, 17x9 + 245/40
good coilovers are on the list someday(soon?)

Raceseng - known brand, active on forum, very pretty, backs up their product

Hanchey - local, matching coilovers, respected suspension designer

Vorshlag - also local, active in local SCCA

[fstlane]

Here's a mini review on my HVT camber plates.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...3&postcount=10

[mav1178]

Camber bolt.

Upgrade to plates when you lower the car.

-alex

[cnk]

I'm on HVT plates. Started out with Comp-C's and KW V3's as that was a pretty common setup, but then started to get some noises from the Comp-C's. I thought about the Vorshlag's and Raceseng units, but ultimately just decided to go with the HVT's. I liked their beefy solid design and they've been great.

[G-Man]

Originally Posted by mav1178

Camber bolt.

Upgrade to plates when you lower the car.

-alex

I was actually told not to use the oem camber bolts, for fear of slipping during events(street is fine, but heavy use is what they worried about). I have not heard anyone here have a problem with it but they have seen them slip during events. also if I am going to get camber plates anyways i don't see a reason to have the extra risk there. I am open to more information or opinions on that though.

[G-Man]

Originally Posted by fstlane

Here's a mini review on my HVT camber plates.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...3&postcount=10

I saw that review already thanks!

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by G-Man

I was actually told not to use the oem camber bolts, for fear of slipping during events(street is fine, but heavy use is what they worried about). I have not heard anyone here have a problem with it but they have seen them slip during events. also if I am going to get camber plates anyways i don't see a reason to have the extra risk there. I am open to more information or opinions on that though.

Slipping? Seriously?

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourcei...e:ft86club.com

I don't autocross, but plenty of people use it.
I suggest you get more opinions than what someone says about slipping.

-alex

[wparsons]

I have whiteline camber bolts, with the upper hole is slotted to get me to -2* up front and zero slippage after a full summer of street driving, plus a bunch of track days and a couple autox.

Now, unless your wheels are +35, you'll have no clearance for any useful amount of camber by running bolts.

[BRZZZZZZZZZZ]

I use Raceseng, very well made product, no NVH, easy to adjust, and phenomenal customer service.

I have most of the other Raceseng stuff they sell as well...

[CSG Mike]

We recommend (and sell) RaceSeng

[G-Man]

Originally Posted by mav1178

Slipping? Seriously?

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourcei...e:ft86club.com

I don't autocross, but plenty of people use it.
I suggest you get more opinions than what someone says about slipping.

-alex

I am curious about what they said too, but they are a shop that brings multiple cars to the local SCCA autoX. The only case i found of them slipping was here but even then it was under special conditions. but that doesn't change that if I am getting camber plates anyways why take the extra risk for the stopgap? I don't think I will be needing to combine the 2 to get to some crazy -5 or -10 'cause hella stance broseph.

Is there a good reason I am missing that I should put them in?

[gramicci101]

Camber bolts don't change your roll center, whereas camber plates do. Either way, people run either or both with no real problems, plus whiteline makes a roll center correction kit.

RaceSeng is top top notch quality, but HVT is very good for less money. If you want the ability to adjust caster independently, get RaceSeng. I would also look at do any of the three raise the car at all. I know HVT doesn't, and I think RaceSeng doesn't, but I don't know about Vorshlag.

[G-Man]

so far from talking to the companies i got this

They[HVT] move the strut shaft up to prevent internal bottoming out when used with a shorter spring. What they lose though, is camber and caster adjustment. -vorshlag

Well, with Vorshlag you'll lose over 1" of compression travel. Reliability will be good. -HVT

And they[raceseng] look like they won't withstand a single bottoming out knowing what I know about our FEA testing and where you need material and the type of material. They don't have much there. But they look nice, and that's about all I know. -HVT

If you plan on using a motorsport suspension designed to the correct length, like the MCS, the extended top hat feature of the lowering camber plates ends up eating up your droop travel and reducing the camber available. - Vorshlag

So far what I am getting is for HVT stick with their suspension and for Vorshlag Stick with the MCS they sell cause both Vorshlag doesn't think their MCS will work well with the HVT. Still getting replies from makers, good information in the thread so far thanks for the replies. I don't think any of them are bad products just a matter of picking the right one for me.

I still need to read up on how caster affects ride/suspension and if I want that to be adjustable, since raceseng is the only one that includes that.

[gramicci101]

HVT retains camber adjustability. It adds one degree of caster, but caster is fixed. Most camber plates are like that.

I've not heard of RaceSeng plates ever failing. And I know of several people who frequently use them on tracks. RaceSeng offers caster adjustability, but I don't know if that's really necessary below a professional level. That would be a question for CSG.