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Old 06-27-2013, 03:35 PM   #169
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...and I can't read the text on the page? I'm done. You've got sand in your panties now and this is only going to get worse from here on out.

How does it is clearly a viable idea and I hope this works contradict each other?

WTF are you trying to prove here, (besides the fact that you are having a midlife crisis) a viable idea and a functioning system are not the same thing. Example put a gt15 sized turbo on the car, it will make less HP due to the restriction, but that doesn't mean turbos can't make HP.
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Old 06-27-2013, 03:38 PM   #170
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wow... i have a leaf blower... sorry, but this is rediculous...imo
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Old 06-27-2013, 03:42 PM   #171
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btw, whats the price for this anyway???
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Old 06-27-2013, 03:46 PM   #172
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btw, whats the price for this anyway???
Pricing is in the works. Dyno's coming soon.
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Old 06-27-2013, 04:39 PM   #173
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If you were closer to us, we'd certainly be open-minded enough to tune your set-up using EcuTek.

Something to keep in mind with your current SC layout though.....you may want to consider repositioning the MAF sensor, should the MAF readings be inconsistent when the SC is on. Having the MAF too close to the inlet of a compressor wheel will often make the MAF go crazy since there will be turbulence caused by the compressor wheel chopping at the air as it enters the compressor inlet.

Of course, the other option would be to do a MAF/SD blend that switches on when the factory MAP detects boost. However, this would involve a lot more tuning time.

Also, you may want to position the SC where it would give you room to possibly incorporate a filtered air inlet bypass valve of some sort. This can help to alleviate any intake restrictions that may occur when the SC is off.

Good luck! :happy0180:
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Old 06-27-2013, 05:47 PM   #174
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Tunes are not always about gaining power. Sometimes they are about keeping the motor together. Have you seen the stock rom? Do you know what the load caps are, do you know what that is and what happens when you exceed them? Do you know what the load axis on the fuel and timing maps cap out at in stock form.... I'm guess the answer is no to most of these questions based your assertion about not needing a tune.

In the end it may not need a tune to be safe, at the current boost level anyway, but i based on my experience with the stock rom, I think it will.

I don't have BRZedit like you do so I don't know precisely what the stock load limits are. I do know what happens when table values are exceeded. Timing is retarded and extra fuel is dumped to prevent possible engine damage. It's actually hard to blow up a modern engine but loosening the knock sensor should do it.

I do know that an older, less advanced Denso ECU in my 08 XB had no trouble handling a 60% increase in airflow, whp and wtq without even throwing a CEL. That was my DD for 5 years and 50k trouble-free miles with a turbo kit designed, installed and tuned by yours truly. Tuning consisted of 440cc inj's and a Split Second Enricher.
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Old 06-27-2013, 07:12 PM   #175
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How on earth is is possible to get "worthwhile" power gains for something that runs on 12v DC, and doesn't have an electric motor the size of Cleveland? I need to look a little closer at this......oh and how long can this thing stay on until the battery dies?
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Old 06-27-2013, 07:35 PM   #176
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unless there are some advances in engineering i'm pretty sure this is not VIABLE ( cost v.s. reward) but still functional.
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[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbGWgvJN1_8"]Electric SuperChargers Mythbusted - YouTube[/ame]

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Old 06-27-2013, 07:56 PM   #178
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Did you even read the thread? There's a huge difference between a 4kw brushless electric motor running off of a separate 32v battery and a tiny fan with a 12v motor running off of the starter battery...

Now, does this particular kit actually make power? That remains to be seen. But It's obvious that this is a just a bit different from what we saw in that video.

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Old 06-27-2013, 08:21 PM   #179
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Did you even read the thread? There's a huge difference between a 4kw brushless electric motor running off of a separate 24v battery and a tiny fan with a 12v motor running off of the starter battery...

Now, does this particular kit actually make power? That remains to be seen. But It's obvious that this is a just a bit different from what we saw in that video.

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The video was funny as hell. But yeah two completely different animals are being discussed.
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Old 06-27-2013, 08:23 PM   #180
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I'm not sure if you posted this to prove this will or won't work,but notice at the end they show that using the leaf blowers powered by their own batteries they do actually give boost. That's what this system is designed to do.

Here's hoping it works
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This set up will work... for close to half a second, maybe less. Then the batteries are run down and the alternator is full fielded (become super heavy to turn). It is pay back time for the engine to give back all the power made half a second earlier. You can keep the throttle buried to avoid using engine power to charge the batteries, but 1 PSI will not do much and even that will soon drains the batteries. And please give me a break for saying this is equivalent to a NOS shot. It is no where near a 50 hp shot.
For the cost of this set up, you sure won't get much hp for any period of time.
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Old 06-27-2013, 09:10 PM   #182
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I posted the video for comedic reflief and moderate relevance. Now as far as electric powered boost...

is the added power enough to counteract the added weight?

is the cost worth the HP gained...
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