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Old 02-18-2013, 01:58 PM   #1
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VS Celica GT and Celica GTS

This isn't necessarily a buying thread, just wanted some insight.

I currently drive a 2000 Celica GT and looking to switch to the BRZ in the summer.

How does the acceleration feel on the BRZ compared to the Celica GT?

How does the acceleration feel on the BRZ compared to the Celica GTS? The GTS surely is similar to the BRZ in terms of power/weight.

Insight from owners who have actually owned these cars would be best.

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Old 02-19-2013, 02:25 PM   #2
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Not perfect, but I'd use my old '04 GTP as a comparison. Slower off the line (than a torque-heavy big supercharged 6-cyl), but faster at the top end, and very close overall if you're talking from stop to 60mph. I destroyed a Celica GT once in the GTP, so there's where I come full circle.

You can feel the FR-S passing the torque dip. It's actually perfectly fast after that point.

This car is about everything other than acceleration, so my only other comment would be to not be concerned with that.
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Old 02-19-2013, 02:59 PM   #3
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I traded in my 2003 Celica GTS for my FRS and it pulls so much more smoothly than the GTS ever did, it's beautiful not having to fight the steering wheel on the FRS under hard acceleration and the FRS handling is awesome. Sounds better too! I love my FRS, you'll love it too, get out there and get one.
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Old 02-19-2013, 03:07 PM   #4
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The GTS had what..198 or less HP based on the OLD HP testing method..saw a drop to around 168 after that (conveniently after the Celica production run). The Corolla Type-s/XRS carried the engine over and they saw their HP numbers drop accordingly.

Weight is similar, but power is down about 30hp - plus it is rear/front.

Celica was a fun car - just not the same. FRS is a joy
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Thanks for the responses, they are exactly what I wanted to hear.

I know this car's acceleration isn't its strong point, but quality acceleration is important and any car. I'm looking forward to a more constant response, especiaelly from 13+ year newer car.
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I had a 2002 celica gt auto...The FR-S felt like a 300hp champ coming from that after awhile you start to get to use to the power in the frs...but the celica gt auto was crazy slow.
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The GTS had what..198 or less HP based on the OLD HP testing method..saw a drop to around 168 after that (conveniently after the Celica production run). The Corolla Type-s/XRS carried the engine over and they saw their HP numbers drop accordingly.

Weight is similar, but power is down about 30hp - plus it is rear/front.

Celica was a fun car - just not the same. FRS is a joy
Hold up there. It was 180 hp using the old testing method. And the car was discontinued before the SAE changed their method.
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Yup there is a night and day difference in how flexible the FA20 is compared to the 2zz. The Celica was a GREAT car though and I actually prefer the engine sound over the twins.
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Yeah the FRS/BRZ feels much more linear in it's power delivery. Not sure that it feels THAT much faster, but just easier to deal with on a daily driver (especially in comparison to the GT-S).

I've owned a 2000 GT (manual), 2003 GT TRD (manual), and a 2003 GT-S TRD (manual).
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I've owned a 2000 GT (manual), 2003 GT TRD (manual), and a 2003 GT-S TRD (manual).
Wow three Celicas. 2 of which the same body style. What inspired that?

I wanted the GT-S Tsunami Edition (I think it was only sold in Canada?) but it was like 30g for that. A RSX Type-S would have been cheaper.
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Wow three Celicas. 2 of which the same body style. What inspired that?

I wanted the GT-S Tsunami Edition (I think it was only sold in Canada?) but it was like 30g for that. A RSX Type-S would have been cheaper.
I bought the 2000 GT and really liked it. Then got the 2003 GT (TRD package), but ultimately wanted the GT-S so I found a mint 2003 GT-S (TRD package as well). Great cars!

Then moved on to a little more power...G35 Coupe...Genesis Coupe V6..etc.
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I bought the 2000 GT and really liked it. Then got the 2003 GT (TRD package), but ultimately wanted the GT-S so I found a mint 2003 GT-S (TRD package as well). Great cars!

Then moved on to a little more power...G35 Coupe...Genesis Coupe V6..etc.
Very nice! how did you like the Genesis Coupe v6? I drove the Turbo 4 and found the car a little "big" hard to explain what I mean by that but I just thought it was larger than it needed to be and felt bloated on the road. However with the newer turbo 4 and the refined v6/suspension updates, maybe this has been fixed
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Very nice! how did you like the Genesis Coupe v6? I drove the Turbo 4 and found the car a little "big" hard to explain what I mean by that but I just thought it was larger than it needed to be and felt bloated on the road. However with the newer turbo 4 and the refined v6/suspension updates, maybe this has been fixed
The V6 definitely was the only Genesis to buy prior to the new turbo and V6 coming out. I liked it. Didn't feel bloated at all, but it was big (although I was used to the G35 Coupe so I felt right at home. The BRZ is what I really wanted to get back into as far as size.
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