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korhun · 01-15-2020, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Aren't those FASTBACK?

If you can call this coupe:

and call this turbo:

then I guess we can call them station wagon as well.

Blackhole sun don't you come..

ZDan · 01-15-2020, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Aren't those FASTBACK?

They are fastback HATCHbacks.
And "fastback" also applies to cars that are NOT hatchbacks! Pretty much means there's a straight(ish) sloping line from the back window all the way to the back of the car, whether the car has a trunk or a hatchback.

Only semi-recently has the term "hatchback" been (wrongly IMO) constrained to specifically mean a WAGON type of rear hatch.

A 5-door Mazda3 is, to ME, more a small wagon than a "hatchback".

But I'm an oldish dude... No one would have ever called a 70s wagon a "hatchback", but Zs and RX-7s and the like most definitely *were* hatchbacks.

LimitedSlip · 01-15-2020, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Aren't those FASTBACK?

Check out a 1967 Mustang Fastback. Trunk lid but no hatch.

86MLR · 01-15-2020, 02:48 PM

Yeah, we term them liftbacks, a hatchback is a Golf looking thing.

A fastback is American for our liftback.

Disclaimer: #terminology

I call the twins sports coupes.

Again

#terminology

ichitaka05 · 01-15-2020, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by korhun

If you can call this coupe:

then I guess we can call them station wagon as well.

Blackhole sun don't you come..

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZDan

They are fastback HATCHbacks.
And "fastback" also applies to cars that are NOT hatchbacks! Pretty much means there's a straight(ish) sloping line from the back window all the way to the back of the car, whether the car has a trunk or a hatchback.

Only semi-recently has the term "hatchback" been (wrongly IMO) constrained to specifically mean a WAGON type of rear hatch.

A 5-door Mazda3 is, to ME, more a small wagon than a "hatchback".

But I'm an oldish dude... No one would have ever called a 70s wagon a "hatchback", but Zs and RX-7s and the like most definitely *were* hatchbacks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LimitedSlip

Check out a 1967 Mustang Fastback. Trunk lid but no hatch.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 86MLR

Yeah, we term them liftbacks, a hatchback is a Golf looking thing.

A fastback is American for our liftback.

Disclaimer: #terminology

I call the twins sports coupes.

Again

#terminology

TLDR: Everyone have different term of HATCHBACK.

86MLR · 01-15-2020, 05:41 PM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Car_classification

LOL

Shit gets complicated

TLDR: I dislike the look of "hot hatches".

Disclaimer" I'm typically over opinionated but generally have a care factor of zero with such things.

#The twins are sports coupes

soundman98 · 01-15-2020, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ROFL it's Waffle

It is <shaking the magic 8 ball> DOUBTFUL you will get any apologies from the internet. Thou must have steel testicles prior to posting anything on thy internet forum webs and face thy comments section from evil-doers and trolls. It was truly a struggle for my simple brain to type anything of seriousness when y'all start using CAPITAL LETTERS TO EMPHASIZE SERIOUZNEZZ

time to start using comic sans in this thread!

PetrolioBenzina · 01-15-2020, 09:23 PM

I hope OP has informed Motoring.au, he could start a whole new round of self-referenced speculation. IN CAPS.

86MLR · 01-15-2020, 09:31 PM

[quote=soundman98;3290852][FONT="Comic Sans MS"]time to start using comic sans in this thread!

whY woUld wE Do tHaT

soundman98 · 01-15-2020, 09:48 PM

[quote=86MLR;3290917]

Quote:

Originally Posted by soundman98

[FONT="Comic Sans MS"]time to start using comic sans in this thread!

whY woUld wE Do tHaT

for seriousness!

86MLR · 01-15-2020, 10:02 PM

Seriously

rice_classic · 01-17-2020, 11:47 AM

Maybe Toyota pulls a Ford and the Next gen 86 will be like a next gen Mustang: an electric suv.

Stephen W. · 01-19-2020, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rice_classic

Maybe Toyota pulls a Ford and the Next gen 86 will be like a next gen Mustang: an electric suv.

cyde01 · 01-19-2020, 03:12 PM

Seriously this shouldn't be so hard. A liftback is a fastback with a hatch. Nuff said.

01-15-2020, 02:48 PM	#186
86MLR Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Drives: 2002 VX Commodore SS LS1 Auto Location: Sydney Posts: 2,203 Thanks: 500 Thanked 2,185 Times in 1,111 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Yeah, we term them liftbacks, a hatchback is a Golf looking thing. A fastback is American for our liftback. Disclaimer: #terminology I call the twins sports coupes. Again #terminology __________________ Disclaimer: This post represents the official views of the voices in my head at the time of posting. http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=133311 I'm only here for the biscuits

01-15-2020, 05:41 PM	#188
86MLR Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Drives: 2002 VX Commodore SS LS1 Auto Location: Sydney Posts: 2,203 Thanks: 500 Thanked 2,185 Times in 1,111 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Car_classification LOL Shit gets complicated TLDR: I dislike the look of "hot hatches". Disclaimer" I'm typically over opinionated but generally have a care factor of zero with such things. #The twins are sports coupes __________________ Disclaimer: This post represents the official views of the voices in my head at the time of posting. http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=133311 I'm only here for the biscuits

01-15-2020, 09:31 PM	#191
86MLR Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Drives: 2002 VX Commodore SS LS1 Auto Location: Sydney Posts: 2,203 Thanks: 500 Thanked 2,185 Times in 1,111 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	[quote=soundman98;3290852][FONT="Comic Sans MS"]time to start using comic sans in this thread! whY woUld wE Do tHaT __________________ Disclaimer: This post represents the official views of the voices in my head at the time of posting. http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=133311 I'm only here for the biscuits

01-15-2020, 10:02 PM	#193
86MLR Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Drives: 2002 VX Commodore SS LS1 Auto Location: Sydney Posts: 2,203 Thanks: 500 Thanked 2,185 Times in 1,111 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Seriously Attached Images __________________ Disclaimer: This post represents the official views of the voices in my head at the time of posting. http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=133311 I'm only here for the biscuits

01-17-2020, 11:47 AM	#194
rice_classic Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Nevermorange FRS Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 4,160 Thanks: 755 Thanked 4,200 Times in 1,803 Posts Mentioned: 77 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Maybe Toyota pulls a Ford and the Next gen 86 will be like a next gen Mustang: an electric suv. __________________ SCCA T4 - FRS

01-15-2020, 09:23 PM	#190
PetrolioBenzina Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Drives: 17 86 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,671 Thanks: 75 Thanked 1,133 Times in 647 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I hope OP has informed Motoring.au, he could start a whole new round of self-referenced speculation. IN CAPS.

01-19-2020, 03:12 PM	#196
cyde01 ft86club resident b-boy Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: Yamaha R3, moonslate 2018 GT Black Location: LA Area So Cal Posts: 1,214 Thanks: 142 Thanked 208 Times in 101 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Seriously this shouldn't be so hard. A liftback is a fastback with a hatch. Nuff said.

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