S2000 vs 86

[Kurochan]

Hi, I posted like 3 years ago about trying to decide between an 86 or an S2000. Well I bought an S2000 which I like a lot but I feel like roadsters are not really my style... I love the engine and the handling but it's not really easy to drive. The steering feels lifeless and has a huge on center deadzone. I have Ohlins DFVs on and it corners at incredible speeds but it still doesnt feel so good driving it. Maybe a square setup and stiffer springs would help. Anyway...

I love how the 86 looks, way more than the S2k actually. I was looking at some videos recently and I noticed that the 86 actually puts up very similar times with the S even with 40 less hp (on equal tires of course). Does the 86 actually corner better than the S? Im thinking of trading my car for an 86 (I'm sure I'll miss the engine but an ace header and a tune should equalize them). Assuming equal tires and suspension does the 86 have better handling? I keep reading the 86 is so easy to drive unlike the S and if thats the case its a no brainer assuming the 86 can corner equally as fast as the S. Will I miss my car?

[x808drifter]

Get a Miata

[Kurochan]

Originally Posted by x808drifter

Get a Miata

lol no

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[alphasaur]

Why not get brand new gr86? The 86 is very easy to drive.

[Purist]

How long is a piece of string? I've beaten s2000s and been beaten by them.

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[Kurochan]

Originally Posted by alphasaur

Why not get brand new gr86? The 86 is very easy to drive.

I prefer the old one's looks. Im just curious how well the 86 corners compared to the S2000, if its at least as good I prefer the 86

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[alphasaur]

Originally Posted by Kurochan

I prefer the old one's looks. Im just curious how well the 86 corners compared to the S2000, if its at least as good I prefer the 86

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The s2000 is generally accepted to be slightly better than the 86, but it has a higher requirement in terms of skill.

Look up the savagegeese videos.

[Kurochan]

Originally Posted by alphasaur

The s2000 is generally accepted to be slightly better than the 86, but it has a higher requirement in terms of skill.



Look up the savagegeese videos.

Most of the videos I've seen say the F20C is miles better than the FA20 but the 86 actually corners better than the S given equal tires (enough to make it put out the same times with less HP). I think CSG Mike says so and he has both.

[x808drifter]

Originally Posted by Kurochan

Assuming equal tires and suspension does the 86 have better handling? I keep reading the 86 is so easy to drive unlike the S and if thats the case its a no brainer assuming the 86 can corner equally as fast as the S. Will I miss my car?

Originally Posted by Kurochan

Most of the videos I've seen say the F20C is miles better than the FA20 but the 86 actually corners better than the S given equal tires (enough to make it put out the same times with less HP). I think CSG Mike says so and he has both.

So you made a thread asking a question you already had the answer too.


Care about handling but "lol no" at a Miata.

[Kurochan]

Originally Posted by x808drifter

So you made a thread asking a question you already had the answer too.





Care about handling but "lol no" at a Miata.

If I wanted a roadster why not keep the S2000

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[x808drifter]

Originally Posted by Kurochan

If I wanted a roadster why not keep the S2000

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Again why the hell are you even bothering to post then if you don't want a roadster?

If you don't want a roadster sell the S2k and get a twin.

[Kurochan]

Originally Posted by x808drifter

Again why the hell are you even bothering to post then if you don't want a roadster?



If you don't want a roadster sell the S2k and get a twin.

I'm asking people who've driven both for their opinions. You dont have to be in this thread if you dont want to

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[beltax90]

Miata Is Always The Solution!

[ZDan]

I loved my S2000! Except for the wind noise... REALLY wish there'd been an S2k fixed-roof coupe and/or hatch!

FT86 steering is much better than the S2000's. MUCH better.

FT86 steering wheel adjust uppie/downie and also innie/outie vs. fixed s2000 wheel. And driver's seat also adjusts uppie/downie. So you can dial in your fit in the car. This is huge, I never cared for how high up you sit in the S2000 and the seat/steering wheel/pedals positioning wasn't quite right.

S2000 F20C engine is/was a fricking gem. I'd love to have that engine in my BRZ. But the FA20 is fine and also loves to rev, at least within the much lower rev range!

S2000 has *way* better weight distribution at 49F/51R, vs. FT86 at 55F/45R. Not *that* big a deal for most usage, but less than ideal at the track. You can dial in a good setup but mine still overworks the fronts with the rears being somewhat underutilized. Also if you want to add power, it won't be as easy to put it down due to nose-heavy.

Overall, I love the BRZ even more than I loved my S2000. It's a much more day-to-day liveable car and the MUCH better steering and perfectly dialed-in driver and steering wheel positioning make driving it more fun and more of a pleasure for 95% of my usage.