TRD Supercharger for FR-S "Confirmed"

[2fast4you]

Originally Posted by Celica00

if thats true (hope not), that is absolutely retarded.

Not really. Some TRD parts are classified as "race-only" or "off-road only" parts and carry no warranty. IF this TRD supercharger doesn't pass CARB emissions testing, it'll probably be considered a race part. If it does pass CARB testing, it'll carry a 1-year, or balance-of-the-drivetrain warranty if installed by a dealer.

[subatoy]

Originally Posted by ElectronSpeed

I would not expect detailed pictures of the engine bay until it gets closer to its final specification. As a pro car, part of that includes lengthy discussions with the sanctioning body.

That would be total bullshit if you show up to such an important automotive event with nothing else but a fucking sticker that says supercharged!

[Celica00]

Originally Posted by 2fast4you

Not really. Some TRD parts are classified as "race-only" or "off-road only" parts and carry no warranty. IF this TRD supercharger doesn't pass CARB emissions testing, it'll probably be considered a race part. If it does pass CARB testing, it'll carry a 1-year, or balance-of-the-drivetrain warranty if installed by a dealer.

everytime i find hope there's some loophole that takes said hope and lights it on fire.

[TyperRspec789]

Honestly, all I really want is 250whp w/ supercharger and bolt-ons... THEN I'll have my buddy Visconti do an e85 tune to bump it to 280-300whp w/ a pulley change.

I think 80% of FRS/BRZ drivers would be fully satisfied w/ a setup like that. TRD better keep this thing around $6k w/ install or I'm keeping my business with Vortech.

[Veloist]

Originally Posted by dwx

I'd still be willing to wait a year or so and see if they end up with a turbo version of the car first...

Me too, looking back at Toyota's Sports cars; the first two MR2's had a supercharged and turbocharged variant respectively, the Celica all-tracs variant, and can't forget the Supras with turbos.

My reasoning may be deductive but to make a turbo'd up variant seems like something Toyota would do.

I wouldn't trade mine in, I find I'm more after N/A MR2's for example just because there's less to deal with and I'm not really one who uses the term underpowered when speaking about a car with more HP than my DD Corolla and Prius

No TRD SC for me either =)

[madfast]

FWIW the south african Auris TRD uses a Rotrex supercharger...

[Surok]

what a terrible car in the age of the 200hp golf gti


im talking about the 130kw useless TRD AURIS from south africa

[jdmitr]

Originally Posted by jadewbj

Someone needs to do the trip and accidentally open the hood. heheheheh

Haha while I was there at the booth some newb (17-20) kid just walked up to the car and opened the door and hopped in!!! Lol as he was moving the steering wheel left to right I was hoping he was going to pop the hood....buuut they kindly"" told him to get out.

We tried to get some info out of gushi but he said didn't know.

[Crewzern]

Auris TRD is not a big seller in South Africa ... very disappointing figures from that car.

[brewksy]

Originally Posted by subatoy

That would be total bullshit if you show up to such an important automotive event with nothing else but a fucking sticker that says supercharged!

Uh... Welcome to real life? Sorry it's so disappointing.

As for power expectations - I am absolutely stunned that some of you are "expecting" 230+ whp. Have you guys ever bought a factory SC'd car before at this price point??? Trust me, there is no way on this planet that it will make anything north of 230.

To inject some reality - you'll be damn lucky if you see a 20hp bump in a very conservative setup. It might be fun to banter about how stout this engine is but TRD can't afford to have a customer's engine explode because of their tuning so their tolerances for testing will be tight. Also, expect to pay a lot too.

The aftermarket has always done better than factory applications because they don't worry as much about reliability as manufacturers (no insult intended to the aftermarket).

[thorlius]

Stock 2004 Grand Prix = 200hp.
SC 2004 Grand Prix (GTP) = 260hp.

IIRC 7.5psi max boost.

~30% increase isn't too much to hope for.

Edit: WHP is a different story - that's not 230+ whp but it's over 200. And more than a 20whp gain.

[xwd]

I wouldn't use this specific car either as a benchmark on what the car will product via a factory setup. It has a built engine and is meant for racing which means it's expected to break at some point and they have the money to fix it.

I'd be surprised to see the kit make more than 200whp in stock form, which would probably equate to around a 50HP bump at the flywheel, which is certainly noticable...

[Splat]

Originally Posted by thorlius

Stock 2004 Grand Prix = 200hp.
SC 2004 Grand Prix (GTP) = 260hp.

IIRC 7.5psi max boost.

~30% increase isn't too much to hope for.

50-60Hp for 3k I would pull the trigger for a supercharger, not a turbo. I do not want a turbo period.

[jadewbj]

There are people making 20whp with exhaust(catback and overpipes, headers or combinations there of) and tunes. There is no way they make it add any less than 40-50.

Originally Posted by brewksy

Uh... Welcome to real life? Sorry it's so disappointing.

As for power expectations - I am absolutely stunned that some of you are "expecting" 230+ whp. Have you guys ever bought a factory SC'd car before at this price point??? Trust me, there is no way on this planet that it will make anything north of 230.

To inject some reality - you'll be damn lucky if you see a 20hp bump in a very conservative setup. It might be fun to banter about how stout this engine is but TRD can't afford to have a customer's engine explode because of their tuning so their tolerances for testing will be tight. Also, expect to pay a lot too.

The aftermarket has always done better than factory applications because they don't worry as much about reliability as manufacturers (no insult intended to the aftermarket).