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Oh god what is it with people and wanting to swap a 2j everywhere. Yes the 2jz is a great engine but it is also a heavy pos that is over 20years old and the only great transmission to go with it (v160/161) are worth about 1/4 of the car. Just seems dumb unless you are made of money, if you are please send some my way.
Hell I gave up on my lexus is300 swap to a v160 and built na-t as it was starting to run quite high on parts, time and fab work and at that point it was less expensive/more sensical to sell it buy a brz/frs and supercharge the shit out of it (more economical, can be a dd, less headaches). and OP people are right, unless you know what you are doing or have 20k+ to spend stay away from this swap. I don't have the best mechanical knowledge or skill but I do spend at least 10hrs a week chilling at my buddy's shop and looking at what they work on (learning) so unless you are able to get similar knowledge from an acquaintance and don't mind waiting to do the swap until you've acquired enough knowledge than yeah stay away from that swap. They aren't telling you not to do it to be a-holes(ok some of them are or at least partially are) but because they don't want you to go down a road where everything is unknown and where it ends up consuming all your time and money. Golden rule of FI or swap is budget twice the amount you were planning on spending. Just an fyi (cost me over 10k) just in parts for the swap and that isn't counting the small on the fly stuff needed when doing the work. If you can't do the work yourself then add labour and fab work and yeah you're about at 20k and that is for a is300 a car that has a na 2jz stock. In 3 words: no, just no |
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You can get the budget accurate if you know what you're doing. But, I do agree with your methodology for most people, because it's true.
I approached my build like it was an 8 figure construction project. From project viability, estimating, project management through out, etc etc. I did this, because that's my 9-5. Certainly overkill, but meh I enjoy doing it, and have done it for my own satisfaction. I could've just committed know it was going to cost $25k thereabouts and not tracked it, but I was interested in tracking it. I've had overs and unders like any project. The biggest over was needing tubular headers, where as I had only costed to modify the stock ones. (But hearing the sound of the motor because of these headers helps me feel a little better) Biggest unders (well effective unders) were the prices I got for selling my stock parts, which was more than I had anticipated. My car is running now, but there's a couple more small things to do. One of the OEM strut bars needs modifying slightly. The whiteline strut brace needs another 3mm or so of height. New axles put in. etc. Once that's done I'll do an effective final account and release the final cost reports. Of course I realise my post is completely worthless for someone looking for a "2JZ swap kit, add to cart" situation. |
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!All depends on your expectations for the car and its intended use. If you want it to work and drive have no nvh and be just like OEM...I.e. traction control, stability control, ABS and all OEM gauges to work its a ton of engineering and above most every bodies experience level.....If your going with a drift car/track car where none of this matters and have a huge budget or a huge amount of automotive and fab experience, its within reach. The two above comparisons are apple and oranges BTW. Alot of the work is being done now by companies eventually having available swap parts you can buy easing some of the necessary engineering. As far as the FA20...to me its a crap engine not worthy of FI and should be left alone @ 200bhp, If I couldn't swap my car I would of sold it asap. That's just my opinion but I have seen close up the inner workings of the engine paying close attention to a lot of its weakness...poor quality control being one .Stout racing dropped this platform with the FA20 asap after a miserable year of constant engine problems using a Toyota racing developed super charger........This is a good read....what Element Tuning does to make the FA20 reliable.........http://elementtuning.com/competition...r-wrx-fa20dit/
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Do the wiring yourself or pay to have someone do it custom. Do NOT buy a prefab.
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It requires more work to fix premade crap harness's then it does to build it properly to begin with.
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