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Old 02-03-2019, 08:23 PM   #20413
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I wasn't calling you or anyone in particular stupid. Let's put it this way: if you take your wheels off frequently to swap them for your track day wheels, or you're a wheel whore who has a different set of wheels for every day of the week, or whatever, then it would be smart to swap your wheel studs for something a little more robust.



Torquing them to a specific number satisfies my OCD because that way I know for sure each lug nut and all 4 wheels are equally tight.



I don't feel safe putting anti seize on lug nuts. If they come loose and my wheel falls off while going 70 MPH on the highway then I'm kinda screwed.
Oh my, Face_Plant , I suggest you relax a bit -

Yes, I agree, if one were swapping wheels quite frequently, it would be good to have some stronger wheel studs. Wait one, iffen they were swapped more frequently, maybe the lug nuts would be less likely to bind on the studs - Speaking of lug nuts, maybe we should be blaming the lug nuts for seizing to the studs, instead of the studs breaking off.



Using a torque wrench to insure the lugs nuts are sufficiently and uniformly tight surely is a good idea. Personally, I trust the built in torque gauge in my arm more, because my eyesight is soo bad that I have a hard time reading a torque wrench dial/gauge.-

CAUTION: For the over 75 age group, you may have to modify the "two squeaks and a grunt" to two squeaks and two grunts. When in doubt, I suggest you recalibrate your arm every 5 years using a torque wrench.

Now, about that anti-seize stuff. Back on the farm, in the rust belt, I used to give the wheel studs a squirt of coal oil. Especially the large rear wheels on the tractors. Why? Because if those puppies froze up, you couldn't find a 3/4" drive socket strong enough or a breaker bar extension long enough to break them lose.


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Old 02-03-2019, 08:59 PM   #20414
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Oh my, Face_Plant , I suggest you relax a bit -
Relax? What does that mean?
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Old 02-03-2019, 09:03 PM   #20415
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Let's put it this way: if you take your wheels off frequently to swap them for your track day wheels, or you're a wheel whore who has a different set of wheels for every day of the week, or whatever, then it would be smart to swap your wheel studs for something a little more robust.
I swap my wheels weekly in the summer months. Before and after track. I've never had a problem and have an extra 3 in my box just in case. I never use an impact and torque setting is 90ft/lbs

I'm going to suggest the problems lies with nuts that aren't removed very often.
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Old 02-03-2019, 09:34 PM   #20416
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Relax? What does that mean?
Oh, my -

"Relax" is what I didn't do:

* before an ulcer blasted out the bottom of my stomach and I spent 5 days in intensive care with tubes down my nose, down my throat and an IV in each arm.

* nor before unchecked high blood pressure caused macular degeneration in my right eye causing me to read things weird.

* nor my stroke that whacked out my right side for about a year

* nor before surviving two bouts of cancer

* now, mixed in there was being a soldier during Vietnam, a divorce, a bankruptcy, unemployment after 20 years with a company and battling alcoholism for 30 years (rehab fixed that).


LEARN TO RELAX

I FINALLY have and like the lyric in the CW song "I woke up not dead again today" -


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Old 02-03-2019, 10:05 PM   #20417
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I swap my wheels weekly in the summer months. Before and after track. I've never had a problem and have an extra 3 in my box just in case. I never use an impact and torque setting is 90ft/lbs

I'm going to suggest the problems lies with nuts that aren't removed very often.
When I was researching frequently broken studs the posts I read were speculating that removing lug nuts too often causes the metal on the studs to ball up on the threads until the lug nuts eventually get stuck and cause the stud to snap, or something like that.

My stud snapped after removing my wheels twice in one week. It has been snowing here, so the roads were quite wet/salty, so maybe that caused it to seize. I never use an impact either. I always hand tighten while the car is in the air, then torque to 89 foot pounds when the car is on the ground with my high-ish end torque wrench.
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Oh, my -

"Relax" is what I didn't do:

* before an ulcer blasted out the bottom of my stomach and I spent 5 days in intensive care with tubes down my nose, down my throat and an IV in each arm.

* nor before unchecked high blood pressure caused macular degeneration in my right eye causing me to read things weird.

* nor my stroke that whacked out my right side for about a year

* nor before surviving two bouts of cancer

* now, mixed in there was being a soldier during Vietnam, a divorce, a bankruptcy, unemployment after 20 years with a company and battling alcoholism for 30 years (rehab fixed that).


LEARN TO RELAX

I FINALLY have and like the lyric in the CW song "I woke up not dead again today" -


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Damn, that's quite a story. Ok, you win. I'll relax.

Just so we're clear: most of my posts were made jokingly. I'm not that much of a tightwad...
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Old 02-03-2019, 10:20 PM   #20418
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When I was researching frequently broken studs the posts I read were speculating that removing lug nuts too often causes the metal on the studs to ball up on the threads until the lug nuts eventually get stuck and cause the stud to snap, or something like that.

I've been reading them too, that's why I bought the spares .



Could be the salt. Mine is summer driven. I do clean the studs regularly with a soft brass wire brush
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Old 02-03-2019, 11:47 PM   #20419
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Damn, that's quite a story. Ok, you win. I'll relax.

Just so we're clear: most of my posts were made jokingly. I'm not that much of a tightwad...
And those are just the things I can talk about on the internet -

Yep, relaxation is a good thing -

Ya, I know, most of us joke around a lot -


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We had some nice, mild weather over the weekend, but a good dose of real winter is upon us again starting today, so I had my Blizzaks from the old car's winter wheels swapped over.

It's funny that the Blizzaks have noticeably more grip (on dry pavement) than the crapfest tires my 86 came with.

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Old 02-04-2019, 02:11 PM   #20421
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Not "today" technically, but I had some fun on Friday:

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Old 02-04-2019, 02:57 PM   #20422
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yesterday, I did the Big 3 upgrade just for the hell of it...
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Old 02-04-2019, 06:04 PM   #20423
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Talking Today...

Ordered a shitload of aero parts and other tidbits.
The car is in winter hibernation so the acquired parts are
piling up in the basement. Some inbound items will need paint before spring.
Wifey isn’t thrilled with this new hobby.
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Old 02-06-2019, 02:14 PM   #20425
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welp...TOB finally gave out at 50 K, started squeaking like a mofo 2 nights ago :s dealer also noticed my timing cover leak so they want to reseal it, wish me luck friends...
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The factory accelerator pedal was just a bit too far away for my liking, so I ordered an SRP satin heal/toe pedal. Arrived quicker than expected and it only took maybe 10-15 minutes to install.

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