>>>Bilstein B16/PSS10 Coilover - US Release<<<

[Ro_Ja]

Originally Posted by RYU

Have these been revalved by Bilstein USA for the US market or are these off-the-shelf Euro valving? Bilstein USA, Bilstein Euro, and Bilstein JP usually do their own valving.

Bilstein told me that all valving and springs/rates used in the B14 and B16 kits is the same across all world markets.

Right now, only Bilstein JP is the only one that offers separate B14 kits (in addition to the same B14 Euro sold in the EU and US) that is uniquely setup (different valving and springs/rates) for customers in Japan.

[RYU]

I spoke with the gentleman who owned the BRZ that Bilstein USA prototyped the B14s on (and rode in his car). His valving is definitely different than the off-the-shelf Euro spec. It's entirely possible that Bils USA decided not to move forward with a custom revalve and just sell the Euro Spec anyway but I thought I'd ask in case anyone here knows for sure.

[WHITE]

@CSG David , @OICU812 , @Hanakuso

So then the kw v3 or club sport would be a better option for someone who doesnt care about comfortability and would rather have a more track oreinted car setup?

What would the most track purpose coilover be for this car?

[CSG David]

Originally Posted by RYU

I spoke with the gentleman who owned the BRZ that Bilstein USA prototyped the B14s on (and rode in his car). His valving is definitely different than the off-the-shelf Euro spec. It's entirely possible that Bils USA decided not to move forward with a custom revalve and just sell the Euro Spec anyway but I thought I'd ask in case anyone here knows for sure.

What's funny is that I work pretty close to Bilstein USA although I do remember talking to a Project Manager/Engineer there...

[*KID*]

Dam these are beautiful pieces...

But an extra grand for damper adjustable, Ill stick to the b14s. Wish I had the cash for these though.

[CSG David]

Originally Posted by WHITE

@CSG David , @OICU812 , @Hanakuso

So then the kw v3 or club sport would be a better option for someone who doesnt care about comfortability and would rather have a more track oreinted car setup?

What would the most track purpose coilover be for this car?

Just to diffuse any kind of sporty suspension misconception again, rough does not mean "performance oriented". In fact some of the best track setups (quality is closely related to cost) has great street comfort (obviously not the best).

KW V3 or CS is tailored a little more towards the track but really is an excellent coilover for street use simply because you have the ability to adjust compression and rebound to suit your driving application. CSG patrons, especially the local ones, have the luxury of having us help dial in their suspension specifically for their application.

Not to drift away from thread topic, B14/B16 is great for street driving and should offer an excellent option for those who seek mainly street comfort and some performance activities. I'll PM you to discuss more.

[Racecomp Engineering]

Originally Posted by WHITE

@CSG David , @OICU812 , @Hanakuso

So then the kw v3 or club sport would be a better option for someone who doesnt care about comfortability and would rather have a more track oreinted car setup?

What would the most track purpose coilover be for this car?

I'd recommend our RCE Tarmac 2 Clubsport (based on KW Clusports but lower price plus a warranty) in that price range for a track capable coilover. Plenty of other options if you go up in price.

The Bilsteins would be a closer competitor to Ohlins R&T in that they are a "road and track" type coilover...good at both but with a very clear design focus to lean towards the road side of things out of the box. The spring rates are proof of that, and more so with the Bilsteins since they are progressive compared to linear rates on the Ohlins. I do think they are a good street and light track option...Bilstein does a good monotube and the easy revalve capability is a huge plus. Excellent build quality and service from Bilstein. We work with them often for that reason but often request a more aggressive revalved version in our applications.

- Andy

[FT-86 SpeedFactory]

RCE and CSG hit the nail on the head guys. These are more for the cars that see more street time than anything else, while you still have good options from KW and RCE that keep things rolling on both sides of the fence.

[RYU]

Did the I miss the part were we talked about ETA on these?

[CSG David]

Originally Posted by RYU

Did the I miss the part were we talked about ETA on these?

Yea.

[RYU]

Originally Posted by OICU812

KWs are twin tube, damping adjustable on bottom and rebound on top. If you take a quick look at what ft86 posted, the Bilstein are a (1) way adjustable which is damping/rebound done on one knob. As far as comparing em, pretty hard at this point. KWs ride very well on street for sure, if anything they are considered abit on the soft side for track use overall but still do fine.

I am sure a few months out after some folks have these, there should be some good reviews and data.

I'm not trying to be a d*ck but I've seriously had the opposite experience. They are OK on the street but regardless of settings we could never really dial them in for a "very well" ride. Maybe it's all relative...

Originally Posted by CSG David

Yea.

Darn it! happened to me again

[OICU812]

Originally Posted by RYU

I'm not trying to be a d*ck but I've seriously had the opposite experience. They are OK on the street but regardless of settings we could never really dial them in for a "very well" ride. Maybe it's all relative...

Darn it! happened to me again

Nah not being a **** at all really I should have worded it differently is all.

I'm not 100% happy yet either guess I'm just comparing against some others I've riden in is all fwiw. I guess that's why damp tronic ones I find interesting and the upper tier ones to. Time is on my side as cars parked for 6months of snow see what rolls out by then.

Sorry for OT back to regular programming..

[FT-86 SpeedFactory]

Originally Posted by RYU

Did the I miss the part were we talked about ETA on these?

B16/PSS10 are in stock now.

B14/PSS is on backorder, but more are due stateside mid-November.

[BRAWL]

Would love to find the cash for these as I love Bilstein's products, but so much else to do Will add to wish list