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10-31-2019, 01:42 PM | #15 |
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Camber bolts, fresh brake fluid, torque wrench, tire pressure gauge, seat time, lots and lots of seat time!
I ran Hawk HP+ F&R they are great entry level with a low initial bite, descent modularity, and good beginner operating temp range. I never even bothered with the TRD pads on track. Skip the ducts at least for now, these cars aren't particularly hard on brakes. |
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The risks of not running an oil cooler IMO tend to be overstated, especially for "casual" HPDE usage. 275F is not a problem for good 30 weight synthetic oil for 15-20 minutes at a time. Also consider that the risk of adding and running an oil cooler is not zero. Leaks are fairly common, occasionally leading to loss of engine and even loss of car (fire). You have to assess what is the actual risk you are mitigating, vs. the actual risk you may be adding. Plenty of us are tracking these cars without a cooler... |
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10-31-2019, 04:25 PM | #17 | |
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I recognize that. This was in 50F weather so I am concerned but not panicked. My plan was to start tracking in winter so any thermal issues have the best chance of being spotted early. |
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Gotcha. FWIW mine *always* goes to just over 270F and holds there, whether in 90F temps or the coldest temp I've tracked in, probably ~45F. So I think it's somehow either internally thermostatically controlled, *or* the temp reading displayed on the gauge is programmed to go to the same spot and hold until temps start to really get hot, to prevent people from freaking out.
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Aww yes, the old "People don't know what this means so we will hide the truth from them. Even though the only chance for them to learn is to tell them the truth...." Like my NB's oil pressure gauge. "What is my pressure?" "Yes" |
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The truth????? You Cant Handle The Truth!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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I would choose a tire that is not the RE71R in the 200 treadwear category. In response to your other post: You don't necessarily need 9 inch wheels and 245s to track your car. A season on the OEM 7.5 inch wheels, 225 tires, and OEM suspension will teach you a lot. You'll really want some camber though, which we can help you with. G Loc R12 and Cobalt Friction XR2 are great options for you. I have not used the CSG pads but hear good things. Same pad front and rear in most cases. Seat time, good pads and fluid, and a good alignment will get you really far. - Andrew |
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How would you describe the main differences between R8, R10, and R12 compounds? What are the release characteristics as they relate to each other? And is there any point in the hierarchy where noise gets insane? I will end up being lazy and just leaving the pads on for the street. I can handle noise but if people start looking for out of control trains while I'm around, it's going to get old. |
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One of the pros of the PP cars is the quickness of changing pads with the Brembo's. I can do all 4 calipers in less than an hour....and that's taking my time. With that being said, it's in your best interest to swap pads. Not only is the noise annoying, but you don't want to wear out expensive pads by street driving them. You also don't want to ruin rotors with using "cold" track pads on the track. That's my $0.02. Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk |
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Not nearly to the same degree though! WinMax W5 are in a totally different league vs. most track pads, SUPER loud. Meanwhile PFC 11s are practically street-pad quiet, I streeted on them through the entire track season.
A lot of us find it super-convenient to run streetable track pads. I've been doing it for years and will continue to do so, as there are a decent selection of not-too-loud, not-too-dusty, and decent-cold-bite track pads out there like the PFC 11, Carbotech XP8 and XP10 and others. |
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Every other track pad I've run makes noise and I've never been a fan of the "street/track" pads. There's always a compromise with those as they can't be great at both disciplines. Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk |
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