Stainless steel brake line upgrade? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

6-Shift · 02-07-2013, 06:07 PM

Hey y'all, I am curious as to whether upgrading to stainless lines all around would be a good upgrade. I don't plan on making any other major brake upgrades but it seems like stainless lines are a good way to improve brake feel overall. Thoughts? Has anyone done JUST a stainless steel line upgrade?

Pete156 · 02-07-2013, 08:26 PM

I did the stop-tech SS line upgrade along with new fluid. Eventually I will be changing front calipers and rotors.

MrTranxD · 02-07-2013, 08:46 PM

I did the SS brake lines and also did the TiC MCB. The brakes feel way firmer. Feel like i can stop much faster. Planning on getting new fluid with new pads soon also.

polancd · 02-07-2013, 09:06 PM

If your looking to upgrading your brakes, Pads would give you the best bang for buck. SS lines are a worthy upgrade but i would do the pads first.

SportInjected · 02-07-2013, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MrTranxD

I did the SS brake lines and also did the TiC MCB. The brakes feel way firmer. Feel like i can stop much faster. Planning on getting new fluid with new pads soon also.

Yep, got basically the same setup (except a GrimmSpeed mcb and motul rbf600) and the pedal feel has definitely improved. Not as much fade when hard on the brakes as well.

JRitt · 02-07-2013, 10:32 PM

Pads will have the greatest impact on feel. Lines will help, but you won't feel as much difference as a pad swap.

FYI...I'm about to run a Valentine's Day special on a Ferodo DS2500 pads, Spiegler SS lines, and AP Racing fluid bundle.

FT-86 SpeedFactory · 02-07-2013, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JRitt

FYI...I'm about to run a Valentine's Day special on a Ferodo DS2500 pads, Spiegler SS lines, and AP Racing fluid bundle.

Do we have to take you to dinner first?

chappys4life · 02-07-2013, 11:04 PM

When are you starting that deal? Was thinking about Doug a similar package on my fr-s soon.

JRitt · 02-08-2013, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by chappys4life

When are you starting that deal? Was thinking about Doug a similar package on my fr-s soon.

I just put it up on the Essex blog...runs through next Friday.:happy0180:

JRitt · 02-08-2013, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by FT-86 SpeedFactory

Do we have to take you to dinner first?

We can skip dinner and get to the good stuff.

mla163 · 02-08-2013, 09:52 AM

To improve braking, I would go

1. Pads
2. Fluid
3. Lines
4. Master Cylinder brace

Stop when it feels good

andrewFT86 · 02-08-2013, 10:50 AM

I'm very satisfied with just the master cylinder brace (so far). Just a street driven car. Pedal travel has been significantly reduced.
Other mods like : pads, brake fluid, lines and even rotors ; depends on what you want.
Tires are also important and can help reduce stopping distance and handling/traction.

Kevin@RAD · 02-08-2013, 10:52 AM

In my opinion, SS lines are a very good upgrade.

Decreasing the amount of expansion in those stock lines will greatly increase the response time of your braking.

Dave-ROR · 02-08-2013, 12:00 PM

To improve braking, I'd go:
1. Tires

Then if you need higher temp pads or want more initial bite add pads and fluid if temps are a concern.

You should never be capable of boiling fluid on the street where most of these cars live, nor getting pad fade unless you are doing something wrong.

For a track car, I'd go:
1. Tires.
2. Essex Comp Sprint kit or similar with track pads and fluid
3. SS lines (I still haven't bothered to install mine) - for feel only which is the only benefit you'll see. There is no real performance benefit.

02-07-2013, 10:32 PM	#6
JRitt Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: 2012 BRZ Premium WRB 6MT Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 689 Thanks: 224 Thanked 1,411 Times in 376 Posts Mentioned: 80 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	Pads will have the greatest impact on feel. Lines will help, but you won't feel as much difference as a pad swap. FYI...I'm about to run a Valentine's Day special on a Ferodo DS2500 pads, Spiegler SS lines, and AP Racing fluid bundle. __________________ Jeff Ritter\|Mgr.- High Performance Division Exclusive Importer AP Racing and Ferodo Racing www.essexparts.com

02-08-2013, 12:00 PM	#14
Dave-ROR Site Moderator Join Date: Dec 2010 Drives: Stuff Location: Florida Posts: 10,317 Thanks: 955 Thanked 5,965 Times in 2,689 Posts Mentioned: 262 Post(s) Tagged: 8 Thread(s)	To improve braking, I'd go: 1. Tires Then if you need higher temp pads or want more initial bite add pads and fluid if temps are a concern. You should never be capable of boiling fluid on the street where most of these cars live, nor getting pad fade unless you are doing something wrong. For a track car, I'd go: 1. Tires. 2. Essex Comp Sprint kit or similar with track pads and fluid 3. SS lines (I still haven't bothered to install mine) - for feel only which is the only benefit you'll see. There is no real performance benefit. __________________ -Dave Track cars: 2013 Scion FRS, 1998 Acura Integra Type-R, 1993 Honda Civic Hatchback DD: 2005 Acura TSX Tow: 2022 F-450 Toys: 2001 Chevrolet Corvette Z06, 1993 Toyota MR2 Turbo, 1994 Toyota MR2 Turbo, 1991 Mitsubishi Galant VR-4 Parts: 2015 Subaru BRZ Limited, 2005 Acura TSX Projects: 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited track car build FS: 2004 GMC Sierra 2500 LT CCSB 8.1/Allison with 99k miles

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polancd Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Drives: a few Location: FL Posts: 35 Thanks: 2 Thanked 13 Times in 9 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	If your looking to upgrading your brakes, Pads would give you the best bang for buck. SS lines are a worthy upgrade but i would do the pads first.

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andrewFT86 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Drives: dark grey metallic Toyota 86 MT Location: Philippines Posts: 306 Thanks: 120 Thanked 135 Times in 88 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm very satisfied with just the master cylinder brace (so far). Just a street driven car. Pedal travel has been significantly reduced. Other mods like : pads, brake fluid, lines and even rotors ; depends on what you want. Tires are also important and can help reduce stopping distance and handling/traction.

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