Trade in time.

[Timmy_Jones]

Originally Posted by Frishkorn

I think everyone here would agree that at no point should a car like this be driven in the winter (even if you drive well, why damage the under carriage with all that salt).

As someone who also lives up North, I made absolutely sure that I could afford the payments on two vehicles. Looking to buy a 1993 Jeep Wrangler 4x4 for about $5k. That'll put payment at around $137 a month for 3 years. I spend more then that on coffee each month.

Making payments on something you don't drive every single day isn't a waste. You'll have less miles on it and it'll last longer. I'm looking forward to the day she's paid off and I have a car with less then 40k miles with no car payment. Not to mention it'll be nice to have it in the garage all winter for dis-assembly to add those sweet, sweet parts for the summer auto-crosses.

I agree, however I bought my car to have fun and actually sold my winter beater. I think my FRS is going to be a lot of fun in the snow with my snow tires.

[s2d4]

Originally Posted by rice_classic

Bad financial planning is bad.

Lol, the assumption that there was any planning is a fallacy.

[Frishkorn]

Originally Posted by Timmy_Jones

I agree, however I bought my car to have fun and actually sold my winter beater. I think my FRS is going to be a lot of fun in the snow with my snow tires.

Timmy let me know how it goes. I wouldn't mind taking it out somewhere where there wasn't salt on the road for a bit of fun. But what they use here in Pennsylvania is the most corrosive stuff I've ever seen. Used to live in Washington State too so used to winters and I've never seen rust like the cars here in PA.

[Timmy_Jones]

Originally Posted by Frishkorn

Timmy let me know how it goes. I wouldn't mind taking it out somewhere where there wasn't salt on the road for a bit of fun. But what they use here in Pennsylvania is the most corrosive stuff I've ever seen. Used to live in Washington State too so used to winters and I've never seen rust like the cars here in PA.

My commute is 5 miles and the highways around me a re 'reduced salt use areas' because of wetlands and marsh area...the car is going to rust, but it shouldn't be too bad.

[rice_classic]

Originally Posted by topazsparrow

How is that bad financial planning?

Let's see if you already know the answer to that question...


Turns out you do!

Originally Posted by topazsparrow

Buying any car new is bad financial planning.

But buying a new car you're not willing to the drive in the winter without already owning a winter-ready car or having the means to buy one and own both seems... well like bad financial planning. Don't feel bad or get too defensive, we've all done plenty of bad financial planning (or none sometimes). For F's sake, down here it's the American Way!

[FRS Dad]

Originally Posted by rice_classic

Let's see if you already know the answer to that question...


Turns out you do!






But buying a new car you're not willing to the drive in the winter without already owning a winter-ready car or having the means to buy one and own both seems... well like bad financial planning. Don't feel bad or get too defensive, we've all done plenty of bad financial planning (or none sometimes). For F's sake, down here it's the American Way!

Didn't the OP state that a job opportunity came open unexpectedly that entailed a great deal more winter driving than he could possibly have anticipated when he bought the car?

That ain't bad planning. That's just life.

[Annahra]

Originally Posted by Frishkorn

I think everyone here would agree that at no point should a car like this be driven in the winter (even if you drive well, why damage the under carriage with all that salt).

Nope. It's not a delicate flower--it's a budget sports car that I bought to enjoy. I throw winter tires on mine and keep driving it, and we had a really horrible winter here last year. Why would I spend four months a year driving a crappy car that I don't enjoy? If this car rusts out, I'll replace it.

[kmbkk]

I drove mine all winter with no problems...and didn't even need snow tires!

[Jaden]

Originally Posted by CAMBAM_6

Im glad I live in this beautiful place, You should move and keep the FRS

All the shit we have to deal with in soCal and then I see threads like this and think, man you just can't beat our year round weather....

JAden

[hmong337]

Originally Posted by topazsparrow

I was more than a little surprised to hear that my 2013 FR-S with a 6spd is valued at around 16 - 18k CAD for trade in.

I still owe 18k on it...

The Dealers all said that they're having a hard time moving the cars and they don't want it sitting on the lot over the winter.

I don't really know what to do now because I need something that's safer on the mountain highways during the winter. Not to mention I can't bring myself to pulverize the poor girl with sand/gravel.

Just keep her! Unless you can afford to take that kind of hit, I wouldn't bother. Just get a beater for winter use.

This is another reason why I will never buy a new car ever again. You take too much of a hit on depreciation. Example, if I were to sell, I'm losing $12000 for only 1 year of ownership. Blahhhh! Might as well keep her now since I've only got 4 years of payments left.

But to be honest, I am happy I got the Scion brand new. The feeling of a brand new sports car and you being the first and true owner truly is worth it. Buying a used sports car second hand with its unknown history of how it was treated can be sketchy. The FRS was priced right to buy new. I can absolutely take the depreciation losses in return for knowing the scion will always and only be mine.

I wouldn't trade it in.

[xxBrun0xx]

Originally Posted by hmong337

Just keep her! Unless you can afford to take that kind of hit, I wouldn't bother. Just get a beater for winter use.

This is another reason why I will never buy a new car ever again. You take too much of a hit on depreciation. Example, if I were to sell, I'm losing $12000 for only 1 year of ownership. Blahhhh! Might as well keep her now since I've only got 4 years of payments left.

But to be honest, I am happy I got the Scion brand new. The feeling of a brand new sports car and you being the first and true owner truly is worth it. Buying a used sports car second hand with its unknown history of how it was treated can be sketchy. The FRS was priced right to buy new. I can absolutely take the depreciation losses in return for knowing the scion will always and only be mine.

I wouldn't trade it in.

$12k of depreciation in a year? Holy smokes, you must have paid a fortune for your FRS!

[hmong337]

Originally Posted by xxBrun0xx

$12k of depreciation in a year? Holy smokes, you must have paid a fortune for your FRS!

Canadian's get bent and vasilined hard. They list for $26,xxx plus tax and all the governmental rape fees. Out the door, $32,000!

Just got back from a used dealership. When I was there I was curious and asked what is the going rate for my FRS... *drum roll* .... a whopping $17-18,000 trade-in. Bend me over some more!!!

I would be losing close to half of what I paid for the car only after 13 months of ownership. Remember, those monies you pay to tax, you don't get shit back! $14,000 in losses and the worst part, no FRS. Talk about getting kicked in the nuts and pie-faced immediately after. Best to keep it. Plus, I never really had plans for the car other than to drive it till the wheels fall off. Besides, this car is nice enough to be a keeper.

[rice_classic]

Originally Posted by FRS Dad

Didn't the OP state that a job opportunity came open unexpectedly that entailed a great deal more winter driving than he could possibly have anticipated when he bought the car?

That ain't bad planning. That's just life.

Winter is always coming.

[FRSBRZGT86FAN]

Originally Posted by Frishkorn

Timmy let me know how it goes. I wouldn't mind taking it out somewhere where there wasn't salt on the road for a bit of fun. But what they use here in Pennsylvania is the most corrosive stuff I've ever seen. Used to live in Washington State too so used to winters and I've never seen rust like the cars here in PA.

Slightly off topic but: Its so annoying! They use the brine before or during the start of the storm then dump salt/some other ice melter all over the roads and it makes a mess of the roads and cars