Phantom FTS Electric Supercharger Owners Thread

[vfrqqq]

Originally Posted by vfrqqq

These are the steps I took to disassemble my compressor unit and apply some liquid silicone sealant to keep the motor plate from twisting with respect to the compressor housing. I don’t know how other compressor units were assembled, but my compressor had the motor plate, to which the motor and compressor wheel are mounted, held in place by the friction of a black snap ring.

I used a bicycle spanner to remove the snap ring, which ended up doing the trick, but I needed vice-grip plyers to sufficiently compress the snap ring.

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The motor and compressor housing move freely with the snap ring removed and are easily separated; however, it is a tight fit so I proceeded slowly to keep the compressor wheel from hitting the inside of the compressor housing.

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With the motor separated, you can see the mating surface of the motor plate and compressor housing where the sealant will be applied.

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I cleaned the motor plate and compressor housing mating surfaces with rubbing alcohol (70% isopropyl alcohol solution). While I was at it, I also cleaned up the inside of the compressor housing as it had an oil film. Something I though was interesting was the fact that the interior of the compressor housing appears to have little pits all over the place (see previous pic). Assuming my air filter is doing its job, I’m not exactly sure what is causing this. Perhaps others can report whether they observe this too. With the mating surfaces clean, I applied a ~1/16” bead of JB Weld red RTV silicone sealant to the compressor housing mating surface. The sealant was a little difficult to apply evenly along the surface so I ended up wiping off the excess with my finger taking care not to get any on the interior of the compressor housing. Doing resulted in a fair amount of excess sealant getting pushed into the groove where the snap ring seats; however, I ended up cleaned out that groove after reinstalling the motor plate. With the sealant evenly applied to the compressor housing mating surface, I carefully reinstalled the motor plate and gently pressed it into the compressor housing with a slight twisting motion to spread out the sealant. After the motor plate was installed I let the sealant cure for a few hours and found that it was already held firmly in place. The following picture shows the end result.

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I reinstalled the snap ring and let the unit cure for 24 hours before reinstalling in the car.

UPDATE: No problems to date! The red RVT sealant is holding fast under normal use.

[WNDSRFR]

45 degrees here in sunny Florida today and the car is running GREAT. The ESC really loves the cold weather.
However, the voltage on my meter varies between 28.4V and 18V. On a long 2nd and 3rd gear pull, the voltage drops all the way to 18V. It recovers very quickly to 28.3 but 18V seems kinda low. Seems like the lowest it usually goes is about 20V.
Do you think it's because of the cold or are my batteries starting to die? It's going to warm back up in a couple days and I can check then, but I figured you all are in colder climes than me.
What is your voltage range?

And when I say it drops to 18V, I mean just for a microsecond. It starts to recover as soon as I let off the gas.

[Sojhinn]

Originally Posted by WNDSRFR

45 degrees here in sunny Florida today and the car is running GREAT. The ESC really loves the cold weather.

However, the voltage on my meter varies between 28.4V and 18V. On a long 2nd and 3rd gear pull, the voltage drops all the way to 18V. It recovers very quickly to 28.3 but 18V seems kinda low. Seems like the lowest it usually goes is about 20V.

Do you think it's because of the cold or are my batteries starting to die? It's going to warm back up in a couple days and I can check then, but I figured you all are in colder climes than me.

What is your voltage range?



And when I say it drops to 18V, I mean just for a microsecond. It starts to recover as soon as I let off the gas.

How long is the pull? And I imagine it's the temperature.


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[zc06_kisstherain]

Originally Posted by Sojhinn

How long is the pull? And I imagine it's the temperature.


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mine does that too. it suddenly changes then drops slowly from 2x.x

[WNDSRFR]

Thanks
You're right. I think it IS the temperature. It warmed up yesterday and everything seems back to normal. The pull is from 2nd gear through 3rd gear to redline. About 2 to 3 seconds I would guess. Just about as fast as you can go without getting arrested.

[stevo585]

FYI - my kit is up for sale in classifieds. Version 1.5 dump but I have the latest batteries. Only thing that doesn't work is voltage readout.

[Sojhinn]

Just want to inform everyone that Shiv finalized the flex fuel tune for the Phantom.

I have to say I really love not worrying about what fuel to use and just filling up where I please.

I recommend the flex setup... Not very expensive and easy to install.


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[zc06_kisstherain]

just giving small update since i installed mine (v3.0) last year.
nothing is broken and still giving me power as new. battery is still fine.

[stevo585]

Update for me now longer have it. But now someone else can enjoy it!

Now that I have a base JDL ($3k) kit I can compare if anyone is interested....

Well frankly there is no comparison. My low to mid torque/hp is even stronger. Full boost is in the 3.5k area. Only place the ESC may have an advantage is below 2.5-3k. But who boosts that low a lot of load on the engine. Top end above 5k is end of story its 3x as strong. Guess that's not surprising as the ESC tapers to less than 2psi up top.

[yamsta]

Hey guys, I've been running this kit (rev2) for the last couple of years and its been great. Recently however, I've run into an issue: it seems as if the dump the batteries run out of juice very quickly. During normal driving the voltage meter reads at 28.X but when I step on it to activate the ESC the voltage drops very quickly and then goes back up to 28.X quickly as well all within seconds. Before, it would drain and charge much more slowly and I could get longer runs in w/ the ESC. Do you know what could be wrong? Is this a sign that I need new dump batteries possibly?
@Sojhinn @Robftss

[Sojhinn]

Originally Posted by yamsta

Hey guys, I've been running this kit (rev2) for the last couple of years and its been great. Recently however, I've run into an issue: it seems as if the dump the batteries run out of juice very quickly. During normal driving the voltage meter reads at 28.X but when I step on it to activate the ESC the voltage drops very quickly and then goes back up to 28.X quickly as well all within seconds. Before, it would drain and charge much more slowly and I could get longer runs in w/ the ESC. Do you know what could be wrong? Is this a sign that I need new dump batteries possibly?
@Sojhinn @Robftss

Disconnect the dump batteries and check them with a volt meter. You can try trickle charging them with a battery charger as well. (Individually)



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[yamsta]

Originally Posted by Sojhinn

Disconnect the dump batteries and check them with a volt meter. You can try trickle charging them with a battery charger as well. (Individually)



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Thanks. The volt meter inside the car shows a "healthy" 28.X. You think each battery is low? What voltage should each be at? How long do these dump batteries last typically?

[Sojhinn]

The voltage will still read 28 volts with a single bad battery. If you are anywhere near San Diego I csn give you one of my extra batteries.


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[fenton]

Originally Posted by yamsta

Thanks. The volt meter inside the car shows a "healthy" 28.X. You think each battery is low? What voltage should each be at? How long do these dump batteries last typically?

What is it dropping to? If it is 18 or below when you hit the throttle there is a issue with the dump pack connection or dump pack itself. Typically thats what it drops to if it is running off the alternator.

Thanks,