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10-11-2009, 01:47 PM | #1 |
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FT86 weight speculation anyone?
Anyone care to take some educated guesses? Anyone think this thing will be able to stay under 3,000 pounds?
With a regular non-turbo 2.0L this thing will have to stay under 3,000 pounds to have a nice power/weight ratio and make it the lighweight compact sports car Toyota is going after. |
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This car should be definetly under 3,000 or at least right at that figure based on the prototype measurements. The car is a hair longer and wider but slighty shorter than a S2000. However, roadsters in general are heavier than their coupe counterparts so the FT has a good chance in staying under 3k. I'm hoping for around 12:1 power-to-weight ratio for a car that is going to cost about $20000.
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I think this car would be around the 3000 lb mark. It has to have modern safety equipment of any 2010 mass market car and that kind of equipment usually gets a car up to the 3000lb mark by default.
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If the Porsche Cayman S can pull off 2965lbs with a flat 6, heavy cast wheels, and 2 x 55lbs powered seats using a host of traditional, non-composite materials, the FT86 with lighter (non-powered, non-leather) seats, smaller wheels, and a lighter flat 4 should be able to pull it off easily and still meet the safety standards. I believe it's also smaller than the Cayman S, so technically it is possible.
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If they stay true to their orignal vision, it should weigh in around 2600 -2700 lbs.
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I'm going to guess ~2,800lbs. With all the safety regulations manufacturers are faced with nowadays, I think it will be an extremely difficult task to get it to 2,600-2,700 pounds.
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I'd be happy with 2800 pounds even. Even the Genesis 2.0T is 3294 pounds and the 3.8 is 3389 pounds. What's fun about a sports car that's nearly 3500 pounds?!
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Well, same idea, I guess... According to 7tune, Toyota was originally aiming for 1100 kg, or 2420 lbs, but that was back when they were looking at a 1.5 motor. With a 2.0 engine, safety features, etc., I figure a good 200 - 300 lbs may have gotten tacked on. Still, that would be pretty light, and would be well matched to a ~200 bhp motor (as a starting point, anyway). Details here: http://www.7tune.com/toyotasubaru-li...ht-sports-car/ |
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If they can keep the FT under 2800K, I will be definitely buying this car as a second vehicle.
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I personally think that 2600 is very do-able. Look at the current MX-5 they weigh in at 2500 with a 2.0 and 6-speed gearbox. The PRHT only adds about 75 pounds to that.
As far as pricing goes. It has to start at under $20,000.00. I don't think it would be wise for toyota to price it with the genesis. |
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I'll throw my estimate in, which will be 2600-2700lbs and start at $21,995. I own a tC and it's 2950lbs with 106" wheelbase, 12" longer overall length, heavy reclining rear seats, glass roof/sunroof, and a 2.4l engine. Yes, adding RWD to the package will increase the weight somewhat, but hopefully it won't be enough to offset the all of the other things I posted about above...
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I just hope the safety nazi... er, I mean nannies don't completely ruin the weight of this car so it comes out bloated. And for a car this small, bloated, imho, would be anything more than 2800 lbs (though I'd really like to see something under 2600 lbs, but I think that's just wishful thinking).
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