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Old 03-06-2018, 12:22 AM   #43
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"The vehicle was released in the third quarter of 2015"

"In late 2016, a new MX-5 RF (Retractable Fastback) model was announced."

2019 is a very possible date for a revised engine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_...generation_(ND)
No, because Mazda generations last for 7+ years. The middle year is used for a minor refresh and special edition. They are a small company so they start a generation near the front of the pack then gradually get left behind as a model ages. The new Skyactiv-X, the HCCI engine that promises more fuel economy, will go on their big sellers first. That being the CX-5, Mazda6, and the Mazda3. Then in 2022 or so they'll put it in the MX-5 where it'll make about the same power to weight ratio at a heavier curb weight.
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Old 03-06-2018, 12:42 AM   #44
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Bob Hall already mentioned in one of his countless interviews that the Miata (Light Weight Sports Project) was never meant to fit into the company's standard refresh cycle.
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No, because Mazda generations last for 7+ years. The middle year is used for a minor refresh and special edition. They are a small company so they start a generation near the front of the pack then gradually get left behind as a model ages. The new Skyactiv-X, the HCCI engine that promises more fuel economy, will go on their big sellers first. That being the CX-5, Mazda6, and the Mazda3. Then in 2022 or so they'll put it in the MX-5 where it'll make about the same power to weight ratio at a heavier curb weight.


Naw they will put that engine into the next gen MX-5 right after the Mazda 3. The MX-5 is their halo car...they know the MX-5 needs more power but maybe this 181 HP engine is a finally a bespoke mazda engine just for the MX-5...
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Bob Hall already mentioned in one of his countless interviews that the Miata (Light Weight Sports Project) was never meant to fit into the company's standard refresh cycle.
That is Mazda speak for "they aren't going to do much in the way of changes for long periods of time." The Mx-5 is what it is. They're not going to radically change it in a mid cycle refresh.
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That is Mazda speak for "they aren't going to do much in the way of changes for long periods of time." The Mx-5 is what it is. They're not going to radically change it in a mid cycle refresh.
Yup just making running changes as needed. I believe Tom Matano originally went to BMW to learn how to design models that could last 10 years instead of 4.

Mazda is simply continuing this philosophy with the ND.

And I think Mazda is considering such a change to the 2.0L engine not because the current one is underpowered, but to possibly make it with power delivery characteristics more like their 1.5L and older offerings (7500rpm redline and making power near the top).
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Old 04-17-2018, 03:37 PM   #48
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Quick update: https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...werful-engine/

  • Lighter engine internals (surprising, as the existing internals are pretty light)
  • Bigger intake and exhaust ports (not surprising, the existing head has poor flow)
  • Bigger cam
  • New throttle body
  • Better flowing intake and exhaust
This seems pretty confirmed, and the way they're doing it makes sense. Mazda has previously said that the Skyactiv-X will not go into the ND. And all three past generations of Miatas have received incremental upgrades to the engine. This is nothing new or out of the ordinary, it's to be expected.

I agree with krayzie -- Mazda originally designed this car for the 1.5 L Skyactiv, and they tuned that engine for higher revs than the standard 1.5 Skyactiv that comes in their other cars. They're now doing the same thing for the 2.0 L Skyactiv.
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Old 06-20-2018, 03:19 PM   #49
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Its official I believe, the Miata is getting the 26HP bump.


https://jalopnik.com/the-2019-mazda-...ngi-1826980844
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Old 06-21-2018, 12:19 AM   #50
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Its official I believe, the Miata is getting the 26HP bump.


https://jalopnik.com/the-2019-mazda-...ngi-1826980844
https://insidemazda.mazdausa.com/pre...unch-features/

Yes, it's official. It's on mazdausa.com.
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https://insidemazda.mazdausa.com/pre...unch-features/

Yes, it's official. It's on mazdausa.com.
All those people that thought they knew better than Mazda eh..
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Puts me in an interesting predicament. My STI is almost entirely back to stock. The updated on the Miata are very tempting
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Nope. They still have 24 more years of production before they have to up it the same percentage.
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The 2018 already does
That doesn't count, they were trying to call it a day with 204hp but then ppl can round it off so they added 1 more hp.

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A factory Miata with 300HP would be something special. A factor Miata with 181 is whatever. It doesn't fundamentally change what a Miata is, just like another 50 HP doesn't fundamentally change the twins. 350HP in a twin might be another story.
In your dream world, that's catching the current P:W ratio of the current V6 Exige
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That should really widen the gap between it and the 86.
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