PEER CRITICISM

[SuperTom]

37 just traded in my adult looking 16' Mazda 6 for this 17' 86. I'm in retail management and pretty high up on the food chain and got bored real quick of the "Safe Car". Happy with my descision and got a ton of compliments from workers, didn't get those same compliments why I got my mazda. I'm more known as the guy with the fun sports cars, and not the guy with a boring sedan/suv/minivan.


Like others said keep the mods clean, avoid the stickers/rocketbunny/hellagayflush overkill. A nice set of wheels with a 1.5" drop and nice exhaust will fool most 9-5ers into thinking you got a high end sportscar. I'm sure they are real excited to get into their car when they leave work. To me its the best part of the day!

[Is Always Angry]

Originally Posted by Esseff

Ahhh... so where are you going to put your mountain bikes, windsurfers, camping gear, guitars n amps, fishing rods, sailing gear/tow the yacht, etc., etc.

Sports cars are for old farts that don't do fun stuff anymore (or who have a second suv for that).

Auto with paddle shifters... unbeatable!

Lol! Of course, two doors = soooo impractical!

@OP: And for those who hate on you saying it's not practical... I'm on the second to last day of a week long road trip/vacation with about 2,000 miles of driving and doing great. The whole time I've had an enormous 8 person tent, 2 sleeping bags, air mattress, huge tarp, cooking gear, food, cooler, my backpacking pack, some outdoorsy games/equipment, and all my fiance's shit (which is a lot of shit) in the car.

Plus we had room to bring a bocce ball set. Aaaaand I'm getting about 35mpg going 5 over everywhere and lots of spirited driving. I keep passing people and thinking how this trip would not have been nearly as fun in THAT car.

I will say though that I got a LOT of odd looks idling it through the campground lol

[alan.chalkley]

Originally Posted by Esseff

Ahhh... so where are you going to put your mountain bikes, windsurfers, camping gear, guitars n amps, fishing rods, sailing gear/tow the yacht, etc., etc.

Sports cars are for old farts that don't do fun stuff anymore (or who have a second suv for that).

Auto with paddle shifters... unbeatable!

My mountain bike,fishing rods,camping gear, large esky fit when the back seat is folded down , but my kayak wont fit in!
The suv drivers wont listen , about why it is dangerous to put their hands on the inside of a steering wheel and why vehicles with a high C.O.G. are easily rolled over.
So why should we listen to them?
Because we do advanced driving training and enjoy driving!

[stevesnj]

[MuseChaser]

Originally Posted by Is Always Angry

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I will say though that I got a LOT of odd looks idling it through the campground lol

.. I can relate. My wife and I took our FRS camping on the Outer Banks of North Carolina at the Oregon Inlet national park campground. Folks kind of stared at us as we pulled our 8-man North Face tent, sleeping bags, queen-size air mattress, twin-burner stove, stand, two comfy camp chairs, full-size cooler, smaller cooler for beer, blah blah blah out of the car. We were there for a week or so, enough time for most of the other sites to have turned over with new people by the time we left. I think the folks that watched us pack all of that stuff in the FRS for the trip home were scratching their heads even more than the folks that witnessed our arrival!

Lots of fun... the car held everything, albeit with some creative packing (no square inch wasted). Once the car was unloaded and we had setup camp, it was a BLAST cruising up and down the coast in the car. Couldn't ask for a better vehicle for long distance trips for two people and some gear.

[MuseChaser]

Originally Posted by stevesnj

That's just stupid, poorly written, and should not have been allowed here.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Is Always Angry

Lol! Of course, two doors = soooo impractical!

@OP: And for those who hate on you saying it's not practical... I'm on the second to last day of a week long road trip/vacation with about 2,000 miles of driving and doing great. The whole time I've had an enormous 8 person tent, 2 sleeping bags, air mattress, huge tarp, cooking gear, food, cooler, my backpacking pack, some outdoorsy games/equipment, and all my fiance's shit (which is a lot of shit) in the car.

Plus we had room to bring a bocce ball set. Aaaaand I'm getting about 35mpg going 5 over everywhere and lots of spirited driving. I keep passing people and thinking how this trip would not have been nearly as fun in THAT car.

I will say though that I got a LOT of odd looks idling it through the campground lol

First off ...... I strongly recommend that you get your fiancée out of the BIG living quarters mode ....... before you go house hunting ......

Hey, sounds like a great trip! Good packing!


humfrz

[Is Always Angry]

Originally Posted by humfrz

First off ...... I strongly recommend that you get your fiancée out of the BIG living quarters mode ....... before you go house hunting ......

Hey, sounds like a great trip! Good packing!


humfrz

Don't worry we make up for it by living in a tiny apartment! The tent was a gift

[pushrod]

Originally Posted by JARE_ee

Hello everyone


I recently sold my automatic fr-s which i had since i was 22 years old. I found a buyer that was really interested in my car including mods. I was shopping around for other cars but I can't help but come back to this car. I am now in the process of buying a series blue brz.

I am 26 years old. I am getting a lot of push back from family and friends on this purchase because it is not practical, two seater (pretty much) , rear wheel (bad in the snow), and not professional. This would be my first manual car, and something i always wanted to learn. I will be buying this car regardless, but the push back and reasons i am getting aren't necessarily untruthful.

A lot of the criticism are:

"You are getting too old, you should be looking for something more practical."

"This car doesn't look professional.. you will look like still a young kid with a tuner car"

"You will regret it driving a manual car in the city"

"You won't survive in the winter"

"Why are you getting the same car, didnt you learn your lesson?"

I am sure there are many owners on this forum who can block this out because at the end of the day they know what they really want. But I would like to know what kind of criticism you had to deal with to purchase this car, a long with how to cope with these. Many of my friends are moving on and getting SUV, or like luxury sedans, and they think i am still silly going for these cars, and modding. I dont feel really old, but I don't think i am living in the past either. I feel like i can still drive this car up until my first child, which can be quite a while a way.

What are your thoughts owners? Did you get any criticism? I hate it when other try to push upon their right way of living onto you.

Replace FR-S with BRZ

Replace lame friends with new friends

Replace lame family with new family

Replace sad feels with happy feels

Replace oil every ~10k miles or less

[why?]

People will say all sorts of things. Not all of them are meant to change your mind, some are giving an honest opinion or are playing devil's advocate. 26 is still a kid, and I bet they all will compliment you on your car once you buy it.

None of those things you listed are real or true. There are people who have pictures on here of 5 people in their cars, or of two child seats, or of an insane amount of stuff all packed in. I don't get people who buy a car because of something that might happen once a year or one month out of a year.

It also really depends on your profession and what your future looks like. I guess if you have to drive 3 or 4 people around every day and your company will pay you to have a 4 door sedan, then that is a different matter.

Small cars are one of the things Japan and Europe get so much better than the US does. You can make any car fun, but it is a heck of a lot more expensive to make a 5000 lb SUV entertaining than a 2700lb car.

Also being unique is always better.

Originally Posted by MuseChaser

Wrong. If you don't listen to and value a loved one's opinions, why would they want to keep YOU in THEIR life?!?!?

I guess, if you really mean "tells," as in makes an ultimatum or DEMANDS, then you have a point. In the context of the original poster's situation, he/she has family and friends giving opinions about his/her car purchase. They may not be what he/she wants to hear, but a little listening never hurt anyone. I do agree that no one should be forced to do something they feel is wrong.

Seriously, that's idiotic. If you have family and friends because you want them to tell you what to do, they are slave owners, not family or friends. Are you really so sad you cannot make up your own mind on anything at all?

Just think what would be if Einstein would have listened to all those people's opinions of him, or Tesla, or George Washington or all those men and women whose names are on the Declaration of Independence?

There is a massive difference between listening to what people say and doing what people tell you to do.

[TommyW]

Originally Posted by pushrod

Replace FR-S with BRZ

Huh?

[pushrod]

Originally Posted by TommyW

Huh?

From the original post:

I recently sold my automatic fr-s which i had since i was 22 years old. I found a buyer that was really interested in my car including mods. I was shopping around for other cars but I can't help but come back to this car. I am now in the process of buying a series blue brz.

[MuseChaser]

Originally Posted by why?

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Seriously, that's idiotic. If you have family and friends because you want them to tell you what to do, they are slave owners, not family or friends. Are you really so sad you cannot make up your own mind on anything at all?

Just think what would be if Einstein would have listened to all those people's opinions of him, or Tesla, or George Washington or all those men and women whose names are on the Declaration of Independence?

There is a massive difference between listening to what people say and doing what people tell you to do.

Idiotic? Read what I wrote one more time, only maybe with the "comprehension" button activated.. I'm pretty sure we're saying the same thing.

1. You don't have family... family has YOU. If you choose to be disrespectful or ungrateful for what your family has done for you by completely ignoring their opinions, does that say more about you or your family?

2. I was pretty clear about the difference between "telling" and "ultimatum" vs. well-meaning but potentially errant advice. I agree that doing what you're told, regardless of the merit of the "command," is not a good way to go through life. I've already said that.

Sooo.. in your informed opinion, all those men and women (ummm.. sidebar... no woman signed the Declaration of Independence, not that it would have been a bad thing if one had) who signed the Declaration, Einstein, and Tesla never had colleagues or loved ones and operated solely based on their own whims? I don't use profanity much, but, well... bullshit.

I'll see your accusation of idiocy, and raise you ignorance, hubris, and self-aggrandisement.

Your deal.

Love,

Barry

[TommyW]

Originally Posted by pushrod

From the original post:

I recently sold my automatic fr-s which i had since i was 22 years old. I found a buyer that was really interested in my car including mods. I was shopping around for other cars but I can't help but come back to this car. I am now in the process of buying a series blue brz.

Well buying an auto was you first mistake. The BRZ grille is hideous btw