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Tcoat · 12-19-2014, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 53Driver

Toyobura needs to get off their lazy bums and give us an updated FR-S/BRZ with Porsche 918 performance and technology. It also needs to cost $35,000 USD. Until they do that, no one will be happy.

Even then people will not be happy!
I can hear it already, "I am afraid to park it", "too much power", "why not in purple", "needs bigger tires", "needs smaller tires", "doesn't come with a cassette player"

DarkSunrise · 12-19-2014, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ST185RC

Shuts the wife up about impracticality

That is the first FR-S sedan render that I actually like.

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Originally Posted by Quentin

I'd rather have weight reduction.

Sent from Tandy 400

Agree. I wonder if Toyota would ever consider creating a performance model (like Honda's Type-R) with the following:

- 100 lbs. weight reduction
- Header + exhaust + tune package making 225 hp
- Performance tires
- Upgraded brakes + suspension

Chad86 · 12-19-2014, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkSunrise

That is the first FR-S sedan render that I actually like.

Agree. I wonder if Toyota would ever consider creating a performance model (like Honda's Type-R) with the following:

- 100 lbs. weight reduction
- Header + exhaust + tune package making 225 hp
- Performance tires
- Upgraded brakes + suspension

4 door car = not a sports car

Manic · 12-19-2014, 03:40 PM

I'd settle for a seat that returns to the original position after folding and moving them.

On the rare occasion that I have people sitting in the back seats, I feel a little guilty asking them to go through the passenger side because I don't want to try and get my seating position back to how it was.

Manic · 12-19-2014, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Chad86

4 door car = not a sports car

Rampage · 12-19-2014, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Manic

A, from the factory, supped up econobox. Sporty? - yes. Sports Car? - no,

Manic · 12-19-2014, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rampage

A, from the factory, supped up econobox. Sporty? - yes. Sports Car? - no,

So how would you classify a "Sports Car".

tennisfreak · 12-19-2014, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Manic

So how would you classify a "Sports Car".

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A sports car (sportscar) is a small, usually two seater, two door automobile designed for spirited performance and nimble handling.[2]

Sports cars may be spartan or luxurious but high maneuverability and minimum weight are requisite.

[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports_car"]Sports car - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

DarkSunrise · 12-19-2014, 05:42 PM

I see your Evo 8/9 and raise you:

Mainly because lighter and RWD.

But typically when people think sports car, they mean lightweight RWD roadster or coupe.

Manic · 12-19-2014, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tennisfreak

Sports car - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Hmm, interesting. Honestly, I've never given much thought to sports cars being uniquely light weight two door cars as there have been so many subdivisions already what with sport coupes, sport saloons, sport compacts etc etc. Generally I would still classify any car designed for HPD to be a sports car.

Conversely:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sports%20car
"a low small usually 2-passenger automobile designed for quick response, easy maneuverability, and high-speed driving"

Seems like people are pretty muddled as to what constitutes a sports car what with all the different variations on 'performance vehicles' nowadays.

airjonny · 12-19-2014, 08:49 PM

Powah! Or at least get rid of the torque dip.

NOHOME · 12-22-2014, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by AeroToy

Mean looking hatchback :P :P

I love this concept. Two door, two seat, high powered Station wagon. I would trade in my 2013 for one of these.

I like it so much I have actually started to build my own version by sliding V8 powered Miata chassis under a Volvo P1800 two door wagon.

NOHOME · 12-22-2014, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Rampage

A, from the factory, supped up econobox. Sporty? - yes. Sports Car? - no,

Have to agree, if it comes with a qualifier besides the word "sports-car" it ain't one.

Two seats. Relatively good power to weight ratio with a max weight under 3000lb, and RWD are the bare essentials of being a sports-car.

You will notice that by this definition, the FRS is a sports Coupe and hence does not qualify as a "sports car" unless you are willing to admit that the rear seats are not really functional.

Tcoat · 12-22-2014, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by NOHOME

I love this concept. Two door, two seat, high powered Station wagon. I would trade in my 2013 for one of these.

I like it so much I have actually started to build my own version by sliding V8 powered Miata chassis under a Volvo P1800 two door wagon.

How are you going to beef up the body to fight twist? Wagons are not the firmest body style out there!
I will watch around town when it is done though as that sounds badass.

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