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m0nty · 11-29-2012, 07:20 AM

I canceled my order for a GTS about six weeks ago. I just lost interest to be honest, because while fun to drive it didn't push any buttons in the styling department, nor the grip stakes. I wanted a car that still had practicality to go with that track prowess. There weren't many options that ticked both boxes, not even Volkswagen. They just aren't good enough on the track.

So what an I taking delivery of next week?

This...

A Renault Clio RS200 Red Bull.

One of only 35 that came to Australia. I'll post a few more details after collecting the car on Tuesday.

MarkMash · 11-29-2012, 07:23 AM

not bad!

Nice score - I wouldn't have even known these existed.

How does it go?

Mate of mine had an RS200 for a few laps around the nurburgring and enjoyed it thoroughly.

also what's the difference between this and a regular RS200? love the accents. though not too sure on the chequered roof.

atledreier · 11-29-2012, 07:36 AM

You chose that over the 86 based on styling? Wow...

To each his own, of course! Probably a super ride!

Devie · 11-29-2012, 07:38 AM

Nice! What's that worth?

Neilus · 11-29-2012, 08:07 AM

I'm sure this is a great car and one of only a few in oz does make it special and unique. Still its a hot hatch and not for me.

I know is a pain to wait for the 86, I wait eight months myself. Sure for the track it's not yet as quick as some but it the first year of production and there are many more things on the way for the 86.
I look forward to getting my 86 just the way I want it.

Congrats on your new car I hope you enjoy every minute.
thanks for sharing.

Cheers

Skorov · 11-29-2012, 08:24 AM

Congrats! Bring it to one of the meets. I'm sure everyone would be keen to have a closer look. =D

m0nty · 11-29-2012, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atledreier

You chose that over the 86 based on styling? Wow...

To each his own, of course! Probably a super ride!

Yes I did. I've never liked Japanese cars design. I was buying the 86 for driving, not the way it looks. The Clio still is the best hot hatch and performance wise punches way above it's weight. It's a little more hard edged than the Megane.

The other draw card was exclusivity. Less than 150 Clio are sold in Australia each year and just 35 Red Bull models came to Australia. I'd be surprised if I ever see another one.

m0nty · 11-29-2012, 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkMash

also what's the difference between this and a regular RS200? love the accents. though not too sure on the chequered roof.

The Red Bull is a Cup chassis with the black 18" wheels, yellow mirrors, front vent and rear diffuser, yellow Recaros, and Red Bull Racing badges. They were built to celebrate winning the 2011 F1 constructors championship.

Power comes from a 147.5kW 2 liter engine. High compression and high revving up to 7,900rpm. Brembo brakes and RenaultSport tuned chassis and suspension. Not many people know this, but its actually built by RenaultSport, not Renault. RenaultSport are the largest motorsport operation in the world.

70NYD · 11-29-2012, 08:50 AM

Oh shit!! This makes me want the MR Clio (u know what I'm talking about)
Awesome car!! Congrats!! More pics please

86 gts · 11-29-2012, 08:53 AM

Nice choice!
I am waiting for an 86 GTS MT
Currently drive a 2006 Renaultsport Clio RS182 Cup
It's faster in a straight line (0-100km/h in 6.9) and has more mid-range punch & grip than the 86 I drove
Gave serious thought to the Renaultsport Clio & Megane, but went with 86
I am sure you'll enjoy the Clio
They're awesome cars

m0nty · 11-29-2012, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devie

Nice! What's that worth?

Same price as a GTS, give or take.

Nafe · 11-29-2012, 10:49 AM

same power, same capacity... So the engine is nothing toooooooo special?? Similar compression and cam profiles to the FA20 I would pressume?? Power delviery similar?
So in a straight line it will be similar, maybe a little quicker if it is lighter, but it is FWD.
Sure, it has better brakes and "racing tuned suspension", but that's easy on an 86 too.
Congrats on the new purchase, but I just don't get it.

Superhatch · 11-29-2012, 11:02 AM

Jelly.

America has a pretty crappy car line up compared to Europe and Asia.

SixSpeed · 11-29-2012, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superhatch

Jelly.

America has a pretty crappy car line up compared to Europe and Asia.

I blame a shitload of regulations and import taxes for our cars

11-29-2012, 07:23 AM	#2
MarkMash Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Toyota 86 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 301 Thanks: 415 Thanked 138 Times in 72 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	not bad! Nice score - I wouldn't have even known these existed. How does it go? Mate of mine had an RS200 for a few laps around the nurburgring and enjoyed it thoroughly. also what's the difference between this and a regular RS200? love the accents. though not too sure on the chequered roof. Last edited by MarkMash; 11-29-2012 at 08:25 AM.

11-29-2012, 08:50 AM	#9
70NYD Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Drives: RX8 S1 Location: Brisbane Australia Posts: 1,396 Thanks: 49 Thanked 50 Times in 38 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Oh shit!! This makes me want the MR Clio (u know what I'm talking about) Awesome car!! Congrats!! More pics please __________________

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Superhatch AIM4APX Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 2013 WRB BRZ Limited Location: Milwaukee Posts: 1,206 Thanks: 642 Thanked 749 Times in 324 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Jelly. America has a pretty crappy car line up compared to Europe and Asia. __________________ "It's very difficult to present technology as an overtly positive sales device to people who want an emotional car" -Chris Harris

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Neilus Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: GTS 86 6M Location: Brisbane Posts: 218 Thanks: 146 Thanked 51 Times in 31 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm sure this is a great car and one of only a few in oz does make it special and unique. Still its a hot hatch and not for me. I know is a pain to wait for the 86, I wait eight months myself. Sure for the track it's not yet as quick as some but it the first year of production and there are many more things on the way for the 86. I look forward to getting my 86 just the way I want it. Congrats on your new car I hope you enjoy every minute. thanks for sharing. Cheers

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Skorov Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: 86 GTS White Location: Sydney, AU Posts: 603 Thanks: 103 Thanked 169 Times in 105 Posts Mentioned: 15 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Congrats! Bring it to one of the meets. I'm sure everyone would be keen to have a closer look. =D

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86 gts Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Red manual 86 gts Location: Newcastle NSW Posts: 46 Thanks: 4 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Nice choice! I am waiting for an 86 GTS MT Currently drive a 2006 Renaultsport Clio RS182 Cup It's faster in a straight line (0-100km/h in 6.9) and has more mid-range punch & grip than the 86 I drove Gave serious thought to the Renaultsport Clio & Megane, but went with 86 I am sure you'll enjoy the Clio They're awesome cars

11-29-2012, 10:49 AM	#12
Nafe Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: Mt Fuji Red 86 GT Location: Brisbane Posts: 888 Thanks: 9 Thanked 109 Times in 86 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	same power, same capacity... So the engine is nothing toooooooo special?? Similar compression and cam profiles to the FA20 I would pressume?? Power delviery similar? So in a straight line it will be similar, maybe a little quicker if it is lighter, but it is FWD. Sure, it has better brakes and "racing tuned suspension", but that's easy on an 86 too. Congrats on the new purchase, but I just don't get it.

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