ACE 86/FRS/BRZ Catback Exhaust - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

AceHeader-MT · 03-20-2017, 01:39 PM

Hi everyone,

Our previous thread of a prototype catback is now in production and we wanted to make a revised thread.

We have two versions:
Laguna 90- This is for those who don't want their ears to bleed. In a full catless exhaust system we measure under 90dB at the Laguna Seca spec of 30ft and 30*.
WEIGHT
Muffler= 8.7kg
S Pipe= 2.2kg
Mid Pipe= 4kg
Total = 14.9kg

Laguna 100- This is a for those who don't have track sound requirements. In a full catless exhaust system we measure under 100dB at the Laguna Seca spec of 30ft and 30*
WEIGHT
Muffler= 3.6kg
S Pipe= 2.2kg
Mid Pipe= 4kg
Total = 9.8kg

Both systems took over 2 years to develop. The Laguna 90 measured less then a 2HP loss compared to a straight pipe (Tomei 60R or others), while the Laguna 100 could not measure a differnce. We will release dyno data (on the dyno of their choice) for anyone who wants to pay for the dyno time and the straight pipe exhaust system.

We have our data but don't feel like getting into dyno debates. Cash talks.

The Laguna 90 is for those who have a dB requirement at their track or do not want to draw attention from the police on the road.
There are video clips to hear both inboard or external in a youtube search.

The Laguna 100 is a straight pipe version. No muffler, not cats and sounds like a straight 6 M series BMW. This version is currently used by our ACE factory car and the current point leader in the Qatar Touring Car Championship. (apologies for the photo, this version has not been in the photo studio yet)

These systems are new and may not be listed yet, but can be purchased through:
www.ACE86.com.tw
www.counterspacegarage.com
www.ft86speedfactory.com
www.harrop.com.au
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l7PWh9M5I8"]Ace "Laguna 90" sound test - YouTube[/ame]

huhu89151734 · 03-20-2017, 03:20 PM

Need to know the weight please.

Shark_Bait88 · 03-20-2017, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by huhu89151734

Need to know the weight please.

Click through the link and it's there.

huhu89151734 · 03-20-2017, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shark_Bait88

Click through the link and it's there.

Muffler, s-pipe and mid pipe total to approximately 19.5kg (~43lbs)

Oops didn't do that. Thanks!

Never thought they would come out with the exhaust that heavy. I'll keep my fart can for 20lbs weight saving. Still love their CS400 tho.

CounterSpace Garage · 03-20-2017, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by huhu89151734

Need to know the weight please.

33lbs.

Dr. BRZ · 03-20-2017, 08:43 PM

Same, my tomei 60s weighs 14lbs. Loud, deadly, and silent too.

AceHeader-MT · 03-20-2017, 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by huhu89151734

Need to know the weight please.

Weights added to original post.
Laguna 90
WEIGHT
Muffler= 8.7kg
S Pipe= 2.2kg
Mid Pipe= 4kg
Total = 14.9kg (33lbs)

Laguna 100
WEIGHT
Muffler= 3.6kg
S Pipe= 2.2kg
Mid Pipe= 4kg
Total = 9.8kg (22lbs)

omran · 03-21-2017, 01:05 AM

how about the diff cooler? will this be affected by the heat generated if we consider the laguna 100? it will be exactly in the center i believe.

AceHeader-MT · 03-21-2017, 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by omran

how about the diff cooler? will this be affected by the heat generated if we consider the laguna 100? it will be exactly in the center i believe.

Should not cause anymore heat then a stock muffler.

The location of our "axleback" fits exactly where the OEM axleback is fitted. The "s"-pipe location is differnt then stock but still has a good amount of clearance to the diff.

Of course, there are always exceptions but it will work with the Harrop or Greddy diff coolers.

ort895 · 03-23-2017, 10:31 AM

Waiting for some sound clips on the 100.
Badass stuff guys!

AceHeader-MT · 03-23-2017, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ort895

Waiting for some sound clips on the 100.
Badass stuff guys!

Uploaded these just for you

Samsung quality but best we can do for now. On track fly-by coming soon

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6Io5Ifutbg"]Ace BRZ FRS GT86 Laguna 100 Catback Exhaust start up - YouTube[/ame]
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmMEbMMtQGo"]Ace BRZ FRS GT86 Laguna 100 Catback Exhaust pit road drive by - YouTube[/ame]

ort895 · 03-23-2017, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AceHeader-MT

Uploaded these just for you

Samsung quality but best we can do for now. On track fly-by coming soon

Sounds great, I really don't know who the way to go.
Either way I'll have a decision by the end of the summer, should have some funds available by then.
Keep doing what you do!

AceHeader-MT · 03-23-2017, 07:11 PM

Pit Straight Fly-by

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQodPbqeo4w"]Ace BRZ FRS GT86 Laguna 100 Catback Exhaust fly-by - YouTube[/ame]

phrosty · 03-23-2017, 08:51 PM

This sound awesome. How easy is the bumper mod?

Do you happen to have the Laguna-measuring dB levels of the stock catback (with otherwise same catless exhaust) for comparison? Would love to hear a comparison of the two shot from the same camera to get an idea.

03-20-2017, 01:39 PM	#1
AceHeader-MT Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: 2012 FR-S Location: Taiwan Taichung Posts: 225 Thanks: 359 Thanked 695 Times in 159 Posts Mentioned: 19 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	ACE 86/FRS/BRZ Catback Exhaust Hi everyone, Our previous thread of a prototype catback is now in production and we wanted to make a revised thread. We have two versions: Laguna 90- This is for those who don't want their ears to bleed. In a full catless exhaust system we measure under 90dB at the Laguna Seca spec of 30ft and 30. WEIGHT Muffler= 8.7kg S Pipe= 2.2kg Mid Pipe= 4kg Total = 14.9kg* Laguna 100- This is a for those who don't have track sound requirements. In a full catless exhaust system we measure under 100dB at the Laguna Seca spec of 30ft and 30* WEIGHT Muffler= 3.6kg S Pipe= 2.2kg Mid Pipe= 4kg Total = 9.8kg Both systems took over 2 years to develop. The Laguna 90 measured less then a 2HP loss compared to a straight pipe (Tomei 60R or others), while the Laguna 100 could not measure a differnce. We will release dyno data (on the dyno of their choice) for anyone who wants to pay for the dyno time and the straight pipe exhaust system. We have our data but don't feel like getting into dyno debates. Cash talks. The Laguna 90 is for those who have a dB requirement at their track or do not want to draw attention from the police on the road. There are video clips to hear both inboard or external in a youtube search. The Laguna 100 is a straight pipe version. No muffler, not cats and sounds like a straight 6 M series BMW. This version is currently used by our ACE factory car and the current point leader in the Qatar Touring Car Championship. (apologies for the photo, this version has not been in the photo studio yet) These systems are new and may not be listed yet, but can be purchased through: www.ACE86.com.tw www.counterspacegarage.com www.ft86speedfactory.com www.harrop.com.au [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l7PWh9M5I8"]Ace "Laguna 90" sound test - YouTube[/ame] Attached Images Last edited by AceHeader-MT; 03-20-2017 at 11:30 PM.

03-21-2017, 01:05 AM	#8
omran Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Drives: GT86 TMG CS-V3 Location: Qatar Posts: 33 Thanks: 19 Thanked 11 Times in 8 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	how about the diff cooler? will this be affected by the heat generated if we consider the laguna 100? it will be exactly in the center i believe. __________________ GT86 TMG CS-V3 DRT team site: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Delta...420727?fref=ts

03-23-2017, 10:31 AM	#10
ort895 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Drives: 2013 BRZ Location: North Carolina Posts: 695 Thanks: 195 Thanked 139 Times in 113 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Waiting for some sound clips on the 100. Badass stuff guys! __________________ Yeah its an auto, deal with it.

03-23-2017, 08:51 PM	#14
phrosty Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: Seattle Posts: 806 Thanks: 202 Thanked 320 Times in 199 Posts Mentioned: 18 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	This sound awesome. How easy is the bumper mod? Do you happen to have the Laguna-measuring dB levels of the stock catback (with otherwise same catless exhaust) for comparison? Would love to hear a comparison of the two shot from the same camera to get an idea. __________________ 2013 Whiteout 6AT FR-S \| Perrin Inlet Tube + 2.75" CAI \| OpenFlash Header \| P&L Catback \| 4.88 Final Drive \| Dialed in OFT 2.0x Stage 2 E85 \| 18x8 Enkei Raijin + 225/40 Michelin Pilot Super Sport \| 17x7 Stock + 215/45 Michelin X-Ice Xi-2

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