09-28-2015, 06:18 PM | #1751 | |
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As I'm now running T0s, which have a lot more bump and droop travel, I'm guessing a larger front bar wouldn't be the right mod for me. Thanks for the explanation. And please feel free to correct anything I've said. Suspension tuning is one of those subjects where every time I learn something new I find three more questions. |
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09-28-2015, 06:31 PM | #1752 |
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More front bar is usually tuning for things like slalom, as far as I understand it. I'm not convinced it's the best answer, but it does quite well for the money, especially if you can't put the rate into the springs.
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09-28-2015, 06:34 PM | #1753 |
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I should mention i have fortune coilovers, and adding the sway helped a lot. I can't speak for what the stock coils can do
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NOW if you have too much rear roll, the diff has a hard time keeping the inside wheel on the ground and that can cause big traction issues for our torsen diff. If your rear roll stiffness is too high, that makes the car easy to oversteer as well. I have 14/16/19mm rear bars, and the 16mm seems to be the happy medium with my setup as previously stated. YMMV PS, how come I haven't seen you at the track or autocross?!?1
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In general (regardless of the FT86), I'd say, the main goal for rear-wheel driven autocross-cars regarding stiffer front swaybars is to get more rear-wheel grip out of tight corners (and this cannot be fixed with negative camber). For example, this car doesn't even have a rear sway bar: http://i.ytimg.com/vi/HCp-UT4JwLA/maxresdefault.jpg |
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so..... when are more of you guys going to run stx in the northeast?
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09-29-2015, 11:17 AM | #1757 | |
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Lack of time/money. And honestly, the idea of building my car to fit a rule book, instead of how I want the car, just doesn't work for me. I wouldn't mind doing a few autocrosses or HPDE's for fun, but I don't have any interest in being competitive in either. |
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E85 is not legal and has not been legal since the 2013 season.
Also if you have good shocks and have the car setup correctly Stock sway bars are just fine. The stock shocks on this car makes the rear end very twitchy... I my self are still on stock sway bars and I have no need to change them. Quote:
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About 75% of the people who show up (for both autocross and hpde) have the same mindset as you. They don't care about classes or who they beat. I'm competitive when it comes to autocross, I'm there to have fun and learn when I'm at AMP. It's more about driver improvement than anything, come give one a try! Autocross is usually $20, lapping days are more but come with a lot more seat time.
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There aren't any really fast STX or CS twins without a front bar. It's not that the car can't be balanced or quick without it. But it's faster with it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Anybody else here running the Whiteline 20mm adjustable front bar? If so, what stiffness setting are you using? I've got mine on full stiff right now and it was pushing pretty hard today. I'm probably going to set it to soft soon and see how that feels. I think with the stiffer front spring rate of the RCE Yellows, full stiff setting may be overkill.
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