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View Poll Results: why did you choose the FRS over the BRZ or other cars?
I like the FRS front 115 72.78%
I like the FRS interior 34 21.52%
I like the Scion brand 22 13.92%
Wait time is shorter 41 25.95%
It's cheaper than the other car that i'm considering 60 37.97%
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Old 02-06-2013, 01:42 PM   #57
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i got the GT86 because the car was a tribute to a Toyota
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Old 02-06-2013, 02:17 PM   #58
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I shocked how so many ppl dont use any interior futures....A vehicle will probably be the second most expensive purchase you'll make....so id like to feel like a king inside my ride
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Old 02-06-2013, 04:03 PM   #59
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I shocked how so many ppl dont use any interior futures....A vehicle will probably be the second most expensive purchase you'll make....so id like to feel like a king inside my ride
That mindset is shared by a lot of people, I am surprised so many are interested in the FRS/BRZ. I always figured the kind who liked amenities would be in vehicles that are more luxury oriented.

My truck is a 5 speed manual without a tach, I have to adjust the mirrors by rolling down the window and pushing them into place, a fuel guage that bobs up and down depending on if I'm going uphill or downhill, no ABS, no tripodometer, etc. etc.

The FRS has stuff I don't think is necessary and if I ever decide to make it into a racecar will definitely end up in a bin (electric mirror adjusters, electric windows, rear seats, carpets, tire pressure sensors, etc.). I would have been happy with roll up windows, little sticks on the inside to adjust the mirrors, a stereo without bluetooth etc.

In a car like this, if something doesn't make it go faster I'm wondering why I'm paying for it.

To each their own.
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Old 02-06-2013, 04:36 PM   #60
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Main selling point for me was the costumer service at my local Toyota dealer.
All my friends that have Toyota/Scion have always given me positive comments about the dealership. Whereas all my Subie friends constantly bitch about how they always take too long and never return calls, or even call them when the car is ready. I had a similar time with VW so I wasn't about to suffer for that again just because of some luxuries that i don't really need. And from a performance stance point remember all those electronic extra goodies ad weight.
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Old 02-06-2013, 06:19 PM   #61
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I considered the frs or the brz limited. I liked the look of the front end of the frs much more. I actually am not a huge fan of the brz spoiler, preferring the five ad lip spoiler. I don't care about HID, or the nav system. I strangely liked the cloth seats in the frs (more comfortable to me). The only thing I really liked about the brz was the start button. However I use couldn't justify an extra 3 grand for a start button.
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Old 02-06-2013, 06:27 PM   #62
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I think every other Subaru model is ugly, so I really had no desire to buy their one "pretty" car.
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What about the option for: I bought it on an impulse and never drove the BRZed?
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Price. No negotiations and a 1k graduate discount. Easy decision.

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Old 02-07-2013, 11:32 AM   #66
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Your wish of rarity on this car will soon be non-existent.
Depends on where you live. Come to eastern Washington. This is the land of AWD sports cars and 4x4's. I can count all the 86's I've seen out here on one hand.....
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My option isn't really up there so I went with the closest one, it being cheaper than what I wanted, but even that is part true and part false. To be honest when I was looking I didn't have a set price range, rather I was just looking at different monthly payments and deciding whether or not they were affordable.

I came from a 626 and really wanted another Mazda, but couldn't justify getting a used one (couldn't afford a new one) when the option I used to get my FR-S was just too nice to pass up. Now, I could've used the option that got me my FR-S to get like an XD with all the add-ons for about 10k cheaper than the FR-S. But, I've always wanted a coupe and the FR-S was just too sexy to deny.
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It was 4.5k difference for me.

The FR-S had an MSRP of $25,900 at the time I bought it. It recently increased by $400.

We are looking at $1400 difference at this point.

Subaru charged $100 more for freight, so we are at $1500.

Subaru had a grad rebate of $500. Scion had a promo where grad rebate was doubled to get $1000. $500 difference added on.

We are now at a $2000 dollar difference.

My scion dealership waved the administration fees, so I gained $500 there. Subaru refused to budge on that and insisted it was mandatory to pay.

The difference is now $2500.

Subaru also wanted to charge me $500 for a block heater, but Scion had it included on the bill of sale.

$3000 difference.

They had a $1000 premium over the price at the dealership I went to.
I was not charged the extra $255 for paint from Scion. I also got premium audio for only $200 extra.

$4000 difference + GST on that $4000 difference. We are at $4200.

My Whiteout FR-S left the lot all in $28,800.31.
It was a $4200 difference for me. I talked to both dealerships extensively.

I stand corrected by you. It wasn't a $4500 dollar difference. It was a $4200 difference. I just rounded it up to the next half thousand. My bad.
I understand this is not the scenario for everyone. Not everyone got the white thrown in and not everyone got their admin fees wave. Not every one was a recent graduate.

For myself, it was a $4200 dollar difference.
The question was why did YOU choose the FR-S over the BRZ.

My situation made it that I had a $4200 difference.

I didn't mean to lead anyone astray. I'm sure many of you guys got great deals on the BRZ. But for me, the Subaru dealership wasn't willing to budge.

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You're in Edmonton, so:
A $4.5k difference in Canada? Ummm....no.

BRZ base: 27,295 CAD MSRP
FR-S: 26,300 CAD MSRP

Difference: $995

And if you go with a Whiteout FR-S as you did: Unlike Scion, Subaru does not charge a premium for their pearl white so the difference is now reduced to a mere 995-255 = $740.

Subie does charge about $100 more for freight, so we're now at a $840 premium for the BRZ. Add the additional HST for the BRZ at Ontario's 13% rate (Alberta's rate is lower) - say $100 - you are still under a $1k difference out the door.

Leaving aside the design differences between the 2, that's a real bargain for the following additions to the car:

HIDs
LED DRLs
Nav
Better seat fabric
Lined trunk lid

If Subie dealers were charging a huge premium over MSRP you'd have a point, but they are not. I negotiated a MSRP deal at the first dealer I talked to back in June, with no extra fees.
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Old 02-07-2013, 04:01 PM   #69
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I see the FR-S and the BRZ as brother and sister cars. The FR-S is so sexy. I couldn't resist her.
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It was 4.5k difference for me.
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I didn't mean to lead anyone astray. I'm sure many of you guys got great deals on the BRZ. But for me, the Subaru dealership wasn't willing to budge.
I guess there is just more competition amongst Subie dealers in the Toronto area, I had all admin fees waived in my negotiations, plus no markup.

Nice deal you got so early in the model year from the Scion guys. I was part of an FR-S group buy that would have saved me $1K off MSRP plus $200 for audio upgrade and all accessories at dealer cost but decided to wait--glad I did now.
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