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Dave...I think you deserve a prize or something! To my knowledge you are indeed the first one to crack a disc since we released these kits last summer.
Discs are indeed a wear item. On a car that is tracked frequently, the discs will always crack before they wear thin. Just to be clear, Dave wasn't posting to complain about the disc cracking. He was posting to say, 'Wow, these discs take a beating.' He has been intentionally pushing the limits of the brakes just to see what they could take. If you look back at his post about the CL pads and the temp strips, he was intentionally pouring as much heat as possible into his brakes. That's why he called it his, 'braking antics.' Dave is slightly warped and likes the idea of being the worst case scenario. In Dave's case, if he wants to continue his 'antics,' a brake duct kit would likely bring his temps down a bit...or he could purposefully take it out of destructo mode and drive like a normal human-being. :p
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LOL once I'm done testing the limits I will most back down to the faster hard on the brakes, ease off, turn in method. This level of late braking isn't fast since I'm overheating the front tires (and seriously loading them) in the process, it's just data for me. I am considering ducting though, I just hate to lose the foglights (yeah yeah they are pointless but I like the way the car looks with them), might run it next to the cooler.. don't know. :shrug: Need to figure out which ones will work correctly too, since most I've seen wouldn't. I think only one kit actually functions correctly that I've seen on here. I could just make some but I don't have much free time anymore
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Right choice! Would you be adding a brake cooling duct kit?
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Oh yeah, I also figured I'd note, even with the serious abuse I threw at the brakes, they didn't fade one bit. The CL RC6E pads are very very good and handled the heat without any noticable (to me anyways) change in performance, and the AP fluid included with the Essex Comp kits also held up perfectly, and I was too busy to bleed them this time so they already had abusive track days on them
Confidence in braking and fade free operation under heavy abuse equals a win in my book.
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I loved the people pushing the trolley bus. That's the spirit!
Mate you could start a thread, "From Russia with Love". I lived in Praha (CZ) for a while many years ago and you're pictures remind me of that. Anyway, back to Jeff counting the bonuses he's going to make out of Dave's late braking antics. |
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I had the JOY of installing the Kit on the inovate car for the modified shoot out. Everything fit PERFECT. CL 5's did the job at the track and the car did VERY well in the tests requiring brakes! Harness bar worked GREAT too! Good Job Jeff!
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Tell you what; when it stops snowing I am going to have a massive track season this year I think I'll do some brake cooling and I've a big urge to cut some holes in the front of the car.
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On a side note, I wonder if ducting will solve the issue at this point. The replacement disc cost is simply hard to beat right now. Crack that 2nd set with ducting and it'll mean it's time to move onto ducted Endurance Kit! :happy0180: |
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cracked rotors means they are too light for the track conditions. They crack due to heat spikes that excede the metals ability to return to static without failure.
he first rotors I was running cracked because they were two lbs lighter than the ones used on the AP kit we went up to that weight and have had no problems. Ducting can help this. Our experiance is 1200 peak = few problems 1400 peak cracks about 50% of the time 1600 cracking almost for sure... |
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