Release Series 2.0

[daftpunk]

https://www.scion.com/blog/news/scio...cement-images/

Thoughts?

[go_a_way1]

LOL @ those seat covers. That is what they look like

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Originally Posted by BlackJesus

[raven1231]

REPOST!!! MOTION TO BAN! ALL IN FAVOR SAY I!

Oh and it looks better every time I see it, think it's growing on me.

[BlackJesus]

Originally Posted by go_a_way1

LOL @ those seat covers. That is what they look like

Its prolly are seat covers. Worst release series they have ever done. Asking the same price as RS1 would be insane. Yet they know that people will buy it for the rarity. It would of been better if they release the Five axis kit with a new color Or just keep the car stock and throw in a supercharger but that will never happen

[daftpunk]

Originally Posted by raven1231

REPOST!!! MOTION TO BAN! ALL IN FAVOR SAY I!

Oh and it looks better every time I see it, think it's growing on me.

LOL Yeah sorry, havent been keeping up with the forum recently.
Did a quick search and nothing came up soooo....

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by BlackJesus

Its prolly are seat covers. Worst release series they have ever done. Asking the same price as RS1 would be insane. Yet they know that people will buy it for the rarity. It would of been better if they release the Five axis kit with a new color Or just keep the car stock and throw in a supercharger but that will never happen

It is an optional interior pretty much everywhere but here so doubt they are covers but ya pretty sloppy fit all the same.
They built the flash and now they are going for class with the upscale look (notice the use of the word "look")

[BlackJesus]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

It is an optional interior pretty much everywhere but here so doubt they are covers but ya pretty sloppy fit all the same.
They built the flash and now they are going for class with the upscale look (notice the use of the word "look")

Is there any pricing of this thing yet? They could of done a much better job if they were going for class. Charging 30k+ for some leather seats is really ridiculous. The color is somewhat nice, but havent seen it in person.

[kch]

I'll repeat what I said in the previous thread:

Originally Posted by kch

lol, 30k

[kch]

Originally Posted by BlackJesus

Is there any pricing of this thing yet? They could of done a much better job if they were going for class. Charging 30k+ for some leather seats is really ridiculous. The color is somewhat nice, but havent seen it in person.

it's in the link, man

starting at a MSRP of $29,510 for the manual transmission and $30,610 for the automatic transmission, excluding the delivery, processing and handling (DPH) fee of $795.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by BlackJesus

Is there any pricing of this thing yet? They could of done a much better job if they were going for class. Charging 30k+ for some leather seats is really ridiculous. The color is somewhat nice, but havent seen it in person.

Special colour, interior (way more than just some leather seats), arm rest console, lip, spoiler, rims, push-button start, dual-zone auto climate control and HID headlights with LED daylight running lights. Go out and buy any of those thing separately and see what it would cost you.
The target market for this car is not the average person on this forum but a crowd that the $30K price tag is chump change to.
I get they are trying to bring different demographics into the mix but also have a nagging fear that this is the direction they will take the next gen in. Can you say Genesis coupe?

[BlackJesus]

Originally Posted by kch

it's in the link, man

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Special colour, interior (way more than just some leather seats), arm rest console, lip, spoiler, rims, push-button start, dual-zone auto climate control and HID headlights with LED daylight running lights. Go out and buy any of those thing separately and see what it would cost you.
The target market for this car is not the average person on this forum but a crowd that the $30K price tag is chump change to.
I get they are trying to bring different demographics into the mix but also have a nagging fear that this is the direction they will take the next gen in. Can you say Genesis coupe?

Ah sorry the link doesn't show up on my phone.

You're right about the change in demographic. It's just how odd they value their cars and how they try to get an audience. I was trying to compare their rs1 to the new rs2. The amount of stuff added is lackluster. The only thing that looks good is is the wheels from the rs2. Did they have any issue selling the rs1? With only 1000 made I guess it wouldn't really affect their sales. The thing that doesn't make sense to me is that they wanted to make it a bit more classy but their original demographic with the frs is younger audience and car enthusiasts. So why not make changes that their audience want. There are still people out there waiting for the right moment for a frs. Making another frs with an agressive bodykit will surely get them to buy it.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by BlackJesus

Ah sorry the link doesn't show up on my phone.

You're right about the change in demographic. It's just how odd they value their cars and how they try to get an audience. I was trying to compare their rs1 to the new rs2. The amount of stuff added is lackluster. The only thing that looks good is is the wheels from the rs2. Did they have any issue selling the rs1? With only 1000 made I guess it wouldn't really affect their sales. The thing that doesn't make sense to me is that they wanted to make it a bit more classy but their original demographic with the frs is younger audience and car enthusiasts. So why not make changes that their audience want. There are still people out there waiting for the right moment for a frs. Making another frs with an agressive bodykit will surely get them to buy it.

The original target matkets for these cars were the up and coming young professional for the FRS and the old(er) empty nester with disposable income crowd for the BRZ. In reality what they saw was an extensive cross over between the two groups and the cars. I think the RS 2 is meant to try and draw in the middle crowd and open the market up even more.

As far as the looks and " The only thing that looks good is is the wheels" goes that is totally subjective and each individual opinion means nothing in the overall picture. Just because you or others (not a fan myself but could change if saw in real life) don't like it doesn't mean it is ugly or not going to sell. Hell, this forum was filled with people screaming when the RS1 came out and words like "Banana", "factory rice", "horrible" and "why?" were flying everywhere. Many people thought it would never sell and ridiculed the people that wanted them. I think the same scenario will play out with this one. Special editions are not for everybody and that is exactly why they are limited and special instead of the stock production version.

[DarkSunrise]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Can you say Genesis coupe?

I can but I try not to

Seriously though, if Toyota moves the next-gen FR-S in that direction, there is no chance I will buy it. Zero.

Toyota needs to figure out why people love these cars and build on those strengths. I don't know anyone who bought an FR-S because they liked how refined, isolated or substantial it felt. Would be a huge mistake to push the next-gen in that direction.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by DarkSunrise

I don't know anyone who bought an FR-S because they liked how refined, isolated or substantial it felt. Would be a huge mistake to push the next-gen in that direction.

Maybe they didn't buy it for that but look how many complain that it isn't. There is not a day that goes by with out some "cheaply made" compliant popping up. And that is on an enthusiast forum so just imagine how the general public feels.
Eventually the people that had the passion and designed the car the way it is will lose control of the project and the bean counters will have their way with a new team doing the work on the "improvements". That is the way of the automotive world.